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    <description>Get Joe Sutphin's AutoCAD 2000 VBA book -- but i guess he has a new one&lt;BR /&gt;
coming out in August or so...  Great book for VBA.&lt;BR /&gt;
As far as AutoLISP -- my "Maximizing AutoLISP" book is over 8 years old, and&lt;BR /&gt;
in about as many pieces -- very well written, but now out of date although&lt;BR /&gt;
it make for a good reference on the older functions.  Not sure of any good&lt;BR /&gt;
recent AutoLISP book.  If you get to Autodesk University, take Lynn Allen's&lt;BR /&gt;
classes on AutoLISP -- fun classes!</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:46:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2001-06-28T11:46:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Should I learn VBA?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341092#M83100</link>
      <description>Hi guys....&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I hate to admit this but I know NOTHING abt VBA.....&lt;BR /&gt;
and very very little abt LISP.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
However.... I am curious.... is VBA hard to learn and&lt;BR /&gt;
should I spend some time learning it over LISP?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
If I learn VBA for use with Mec Desktop..... can I also&lt;BR /&gt;
apply that knowledge to MS Access,  Excel, etc?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:50:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T10:50:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Should I learn VBA?</title>
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      <description>&lt;JMORRIS&gt; wrote in message&lt;BR /&gt;
news:dvumjtgbe09vcfg3srv8aidg79vu8snrro@4ax.com...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; If I learn VBA for use with Mec Desktop..... can I also&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; apply that knowledge to MS Access,  Excel, etc?&lt;BR /&gt;
Yes, the basic language is the same, just the Object Model changes. In other&lt;BR /&gt;
words, you have a different kit of parts in each application, but the parts&lt;BR /&gt;
all get connected in basically the same way. Also, if you know VBA, you can&lt;BR /&gt;
also move to VB Script and stand alone VB apps without much pain.&lt;BR /&gt;
But, as Chuck says, learn both. While the LISP wont translate to other&lt;BR /&gt;
applications like the VBA will, there are still things in Acad that are&lt;BR /&gt;
better done in LISP, so if you really want to develope for AutoCAD, you need&lt;BR /&gt;
both.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
HTH,&lt;BR /&gt;
Gordon&lt;/JMORRIS&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:25:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T11:25:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Should I learn VBA?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341094#M83102</link>
      <description>Learn both.  They compliment each other.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Chuck&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;JMORRIS&gt; wrote in message&lt;BR /&gt;
news:dvumjtgbe09vcfg3srv8aidg79vu8snrro@4ax.com...&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Hi guys....&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; I hate to admit this but I know NOTHING abt VBA.....&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; and very very little abt LISP.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; However.... I am curious.... is VBA hard to learn and&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; should I spend some time learning it over LISP?&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; If I learn VBA for use with Mec Desktop..... can I also&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; apply that knowledge to MS Access,  Excel, etc?&lt;/JMORRIS&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:26:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341094#M83102</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T11:26:04Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Chuck Gabriel wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Learn both.  They compliment each other.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Or either, but neither will get you nowhere.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Terry</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:35:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T11:35:33Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Learn both.  They compliment each other.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;Or either, but neither will get you nowhere.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;Terry&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
OK.... what is best way to learn VBA?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Also.... again.... if learning VBA for Mech Desktop&lt;BR /&gt;
use.... will it also apply to Acess, Excel, and other&lt;BR /&gt;
apps?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:38:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341096#M83104</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T11:38:32Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Get Joe Sutphin's AutoCAD 2000 VBA book -- but i guess he has a new one&lt;BR /&gt;
coming out in August or so...  Great book for VBA.&lt;BR /&gt;
As far as AutoLISP -- my "Maximizing AutoLISP" book is over 8 years old, and&lt;BR /&gt;
in about as many pieces -- very well written, but now out of date although&lt;BR /&gt;
it make for a good reference on the older functions.  Not sure of any good&lt;BR /&gt;
recent AutoLISP book.  If you get to Autodesk University, take Lynn Allen's&lt;BR /&gt;
classes on AutoLISP -- fun classes!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:46:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341097#M83105</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T11:46:47Z</dc:date>
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      <description>AutoDesk includes a tutorial called "Garden Path".  It comes in both Lisp&lt;BR /&gt;
and VBA versions.  Use it!  It will give you a pretty quick, hands-on,&lt;BR /&gt;
step-by-step intro.  And, it's free.  Then go look at some of the sample&lt;BR /&gt;
apps included on the CD (also free).  Then ask some more questions.&lt;BR /&gt;
--&lt;BR /&gt;
John Goodfellow&lt;BR /&gt;
irtf'nm&lt;BR /&gt;
use 'microtouch' in address to email&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;JMORRIS&gt; wrote in message&lt;BR /&gt;
news:6s1njtgbqia431euppbfoc7h0rm31fcngj@4ax.com...&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Learn both.  They compliment each other.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Or either, but neither will get you nowhere.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Terry&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; OK.... what is best way to learn VBA?&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Also.... again.... if learning VBA for Mech Desktop&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; use.... will it also apply to Acess, Excel, and other&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; apps?&lt;/JMORRIS&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:36:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T12:36:14Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&amp;lt; Learn both.  They *compliment* each other. &amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
vba: "Hi there Lisp, you sexy devil, I just love your reactors..."&lt;BR /&gt;
lisp: "Thanks! You have such stylish controls, we should hook up some time!"&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
...sorry I coudn't resist. it's just one of those afternoons when all&lt;BR /&gt;
interest in work has been lost.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
Jacob Dinardi&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Chuck Gabriel &lt;BOT_VICTIM_CRGABE&gt; wrote in message&lt;BR /&gt;
news:3CF6A6795974FA0FD8DC34A201EA2CA3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...&lt;BR /&gt;
Learn both.  They compliment each other.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Chuck&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;JMORRIS&gt; wrote in message&lt;BR /&gt;
news:dvumjtgbe09vcfg3srv8aidg79vu8snrro@4ax.com...&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Hi guys....&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; I hate to admit this but I know NOTHING abt VBA.....&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; and very very little abt LISP.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; However.... I am curious.... is VBA hard to learn and&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; should I spend some time learning it over LISP?&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; If I learn VBA for use with Mec Desktop..... can I also&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; apply that knowledge to MS Access,  Excel, etc?&lt;/JMORRIS&gt;&lt;/BOT_VICTIM_CRGABE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:40:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341099#M83107</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T14:40:02Z</dc:date>
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      <description>jmorris@chromerod.com wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Also.... again.... if learning VBA for Mech Desktop&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; use.... will it also apply to Acess, Excel, and other&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; apps?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Absolutely.  When I jump into Access Basic it feels the same.  When I&lt;BR /&gt;
jump into VB6 for a standalone it feels the same.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
If you want maximum control over the drawing database with little&lt;BR /&gt;
concern for interface, use Vlisp.  Otherwise use VBA.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I was writing BASIC when writing BASIC wasn't cool. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":monkey_face:"&gt;🐵&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Terry</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:18:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-28T18:18:07Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Should have seen that one coming :^)&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
"Jacob Dinardi" &lt;JDINARDI&gt; wrote in message&lt;BR /&gt;
news:DB320962F2F61C5372144BF618930B3B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;lt; Learn both.  They *compliment* each other. &amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; vba: "Hi there Lisp, you sexy devil, I just love your reactors..."&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; lisp: "Thanks! You have such stylish controls, we should hook up some time!"&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; ...sorry I coudn't resist. it's just one of those afternoons when all&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; interest in work has been lost.&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
&amp;gt; Jacob Dinardi&lt;/JDINARDI&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2001 04:34:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341101#M83109</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-29T04:34:32Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&amp;gt;AutoDesk includes a tutorial called "Garden Path". &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
OK..... will check it out.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I was just told that Inventor does not have VBA.....&lt;BR /&gt;
true?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
If yes..... does it have ANY programming language in&lt;BR /&gt;
it?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Will it EVER have VBA?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:27:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341102#M83110</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-29T05:27:47Z</dc:date>
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      <description>The Inventor object model can be accessed from "Full" Visual Basic or C.&lt;BR /&gt;
I've read and/or heard that VBA was to become available in R2, but still&lt;BR /&gt;
hasn't made it into R4. There are some sample VB programs that are made&lt;BR /&gt;
available with the R4 installation. I don't know if they are VB5 or VB6.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Sorry for the earlier private reply. I intended to reply to this thread.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Gary</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:24:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vba-forum/should-i-learn-vba/m-p/341103#M83111</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2001-06-29T06:24:10Z</dc:date>
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