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Using Tube and Pipe with Vault Basic Do's & Dont's

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 13:35:37 GMT

Am looking for some general advice for using the vault alongside tube and pipe.

I've recently migrated our CAD Dept onto vault basic 2015, alongside inventor Pro 2015, we were already using tube and pipe with relatively little issues,

Now we've implemented the vault we are having some teething problems mostly around T&P.

we are getting inconsistent errors when people have variations of the top level assembly, the tube and pipe master assembly or the individual pipe run assemblies checked out.

My question is what is the best way to go forward with T&P & the vault, what different people work on at the same time without issues checking things back into the vault arising.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Using Tube and Pipe with Vault Basic Do's & Dont's

cbenner — Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:47:05 GMT

I invite someone from Autodesk to chime in on this, but in my experience, I think it would be very difficult to use T&P with Vault in a situation where you have multiple users working on different parts of an assembly. Tube & Pipe is a highly interactive program, and often minor or even seemingly insignificant changes can affect multiple levels of the assembly. Often a change will require you to have parts or pipe runs checked out that you are sure you're not having any effect on. It's actually a bit irritating to tell you the truth.

Not helpful, I know... but this has been my experience.

Re: Using Tube and Pipe with Vault Basic Do's & Dont's

Mark.Lancaster — Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:09:29 GMT

@Anonymous

I concur with @cbenner.. Although the designers (when I use to manage CAD/Vault) never shared design work.. I could see if we did this would cause some conflicts. My advice is that you may want to break up your piping designs into smaller chucks and then combine them all together in another assembly. That way each designer is not impacting someone else routed system model. But without know your models and type of design you do that may not work either.

Re: Using Tube and Pipe with Vault Basic Do's & Dont's

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:15:32 GMT

Thanks for replies.

We're working on large package skids for oil & Gas industry, which involve using tube & pipe alongside frame generator and client/vendor models, and due to the size of the projects we often have more than one draughtsman working on them at any one time, in this sense the vault has made things a lot more efficient. Currently we have the tube and pipe run master assembly in the overall general arrangement model. what would be ideal is if we could have multiple T&P assemblies in one assembly, I have already tried accessing T&P in a sub assembly but Inventor does not like that.