topic Re: Vault Pro vs Basic in Vault Forum

Vault Pro vs Basic

johan.degreef — Sat, 17 Apr 2021 07:50:53 GMT

Why would a company choose for Vault Pro above Basic?

That's the choice I am going to face soon.

- We do not need replication to other offices

- We want as much freedom as possible in regards to "Inventoir without Vault"

- main goal is to re use assemblies from older project in new project (which might modified slightly)

- Our company is also looking for an ERP system to use.

- Work @Anonymous = check out a project for a week (or 2) and check back in when in the office.

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

vladimir_michl — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 07:06:48 GMT

For any Vault integration with your ERP, you will need the Pro version.

Vladimir Michl, www.arkance-systems.cz - www.cadforum.cz

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

DEDE2232 — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:19:42 GMT

With Vault Workgroup or Vault Professional you have the benefit of using Lifecycle Management that helps you see the state of the design. Vault Basic also does not provide an API. With Vault Workgroup or Vault Professional you will find a ton of useful extensions that will help you to automate your processes, like publishing neutral format documents, like PDF, DXF or STEP. With powerGate from COOLORANGE you even can have an ERP-integration to Vault Workgroup and it can also be embedded into Inventor.

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

ihayesjr — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:04:48 GMT

@johan.degreef

You can review the following AU class.

Vault: What Is It and Why Do I Need It? | Autodesk University

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

johan.degreef — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:53:19 GMT

@ihayesjr Great class.

1. Do I understand correctly that the Vault Basic version of "Copy Design" is less then the workgroups/pro version of "copy design"?

2. If you choose to go for Pro, to have all the extra stuff. Can Pro be configured to be as "forgiven" as Vault Basic, with regards to being always as status "Work in progress" on files?

3. Can you just opt to not use lifecycles with Vault Pro Kinda disable Lifecicles?

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

ihayesjr — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:40:16 GMT

@johan.degreef wrote:

@ihayesjr Great class.

1. Do I understand correctly that the Vault Basic version of "Copy Design" is less then the workgroups/pro version of "copy design"?

2. If you choose to go for Pro, to have all the extra stuff. Can Pro be configured to be as "forgiven" as Vault Basic, with regards to being always as status "Work in progress" on files?

3. Can you just opt to not use lifecycles with Vault Pro Kinda disable Lifecicles?

Yes, Vault Workgroup and Professional have a different version of Copy Design.
Yes, you are not required to use lifecycles when you upgrade from Vault Basic. All files will continue to be in the state there were in when you used Vault Basic.
Lifecycles cannot be disabled but you don't have to use them.

One thing to know, Vault Professional is Revision based and Vault Basic is Version based. You will see Get and other functions working differently than they did in Vault Basic.

I recommend that you work with a partner to get a good understand of the difference between the two editions before upgrading.

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

johan.degreef — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:06:25 GMT

@ihayesjr wrote:
One thing to know, Vault Professional is Revision based and Vault Basic is Version based. You will see Get and other functions working differently than they did in Vault Basic.
I recommend that you work with a partner to get a good understand of the difference between the two editions before upgrading.

I think this is very important knowledge to make a correct disciccions. So Autodesk itself don't document this is lecture, classes or anywhere else?

Of course you read a 1000 times the same comparing sheet between Basic, Workspace and Pro, but every time this crucial information is not mentioned. https://www.autodesk.com/compare/compare-features/vault

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

ihayesjr — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:13:09 GMT

@johan.degreef

While I do understand that this information can be hard to find, the Help does section out things that are different between the Vault editions.

Also, there are a lot of AU classes on Vault that detail workflows of Vault Professional.

https://www.autodesk.com/autodesk-university/au-online?query=Vault+Professional

Nothing can replace talking to a partner where they can help you go into the details of your workflows and give you the best possible recommendations to deploy and use the software.

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

johan.degreef — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:27:48 GMT

ok, that are hours of video's to watch....

There must be a clear definition of what means working with Basic vs Pro, or what it means to work with versions instead of working with revisions? I guess everyone makes assemblies with parts in them, and then create drawing from it.

Or is it just a simple as saying "It depends on your workflow". I need video's or other sources showing both workflows, inventor cooperating with Vault (not only the Vault only videos) so I can descide if we will be better of going the Vault way (and which one) or leaving things as it is, right?

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

ihayesjr — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:33:04 GMT

We have a high-level list here. Compare Vault Products | Vault | Autodesk

We could go into a lot of details about each, which is in the Help but that still will not get you where you want to be.

In the end, it depends on a few things.

What problem(s) are you trying to solve?
What workflows do you want to improve?
How can you get the most out of the software you purchased?

You may not get this from reading pages of differences between editions. You can get this by talking to a partner where they can get an understanding of where you are today and where you want to be tomorrow.

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

ihayesjr — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:38:51 GMT

Here is an example of the differences in the Get and Checkout workflow in each edition.

Vault 2022 Help | Get or Check Out a File with the Vault Client | Autodesk

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

TateFrig13 — Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:02:40 GMT

This post was very helpful. I wish I had found this before we switched from Vault Basic to Vault Pro. We pulled the trigger too soon. I feel we were not ready. This post supports that theory. We did not understand the differences and now here we are months into our upgrade we are still struggling.

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

TSAS24 — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:52:05 GMT

Is it possible to "quickly" create PDF's of office documents?

Re: Vault Pro vs Basic

ihayesjr — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:05:34 GMT

Not inside of Vault.