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partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:14:50 GMT

Hello,

I am modelling vertical panels in a structure only to transfer loads vertical (self-weigth of partitions). I want the loads to be transfered to the beams below the partition, but it happens that the load is transfered to the beam above (it is hanged) and the beam below (half and half). Is there any way for the wall to transfer the loads only to the beam below.

Thanks.

Re: partitions load transfer

Rafacascudo — Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:16:45 GMT

Maybe you can try something like this using linear releases for panels . For this example ,Self-weight generated only for the panels

Re: partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:50:53 GMT

The panels have not finite elements, I do not want them to be considered in calculations, I only need it to transfer loads. So when I use linear releases i get the same result.

Re: partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:57:05 GMT

Here you can see it.

Re: partitions load transfer

Rafacascudo — Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:14:56 GMT

So they are claddings ?
You need to transfer just vertical loads or there are also horizontal loads like wind?

Re: partitions load transfer

Romanich — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 03:45:07 GMT

Hi,

Please check http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis/api-addin-wallcutter/m-p/5588636

Re: partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:09:05 GMT

Yes, they are claddings. I only need to transfer vertical loads (they are heavy partitions).

Re: partitions load transfer

Refaat — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:28:34 GMT

The claddings are just used to distribute the loads to adjacent elements based on (trapezoidal and triangular method. They don’t have any properties (No self-weight considered). I think the results in your capture (post 4) is due to the beams self-weight.

Refaat

Re: partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:05:22 GMT

Self weight is considered. Here you can see:

Panel calculation model definition:

-Results of the models: model in the left side: 30cm thick. Model in the right: 60cm thick. Case with only self weigth. Results are not the same:

Re: partitions load transfer

Rafacascudo — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:39:26 GMT

If it´s just to transfer vertical loads , why not just directly load the beams with distributed uniform load?

Anyway , If it´s just one wall ( bottom and top beam) , you can set it to load only the bottom beam

This will not work if there are several floors ,as the top beam will be the bottom beam of the upper wall.

Another option would be making the cladding contour just a little short as to not reach the top beam. For examble instead of 5m height it would be 4,995 m .

and don´t forget to set one way load distribution (vertical up-down)

Re: partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 14:50:30 GMT

Re: partitions load transfer

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 15:15:16 GMT

Hi,

The model has several floors, so I would have to use the second solution.

The point of modelling the panels instead of loads, is because I am analyzing the global behaviour of the model comparing structural walls or partitions. So I wanted to change claddings to shells easily.