topic Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis in Robot Structural Analysis Forum

Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Anonymous — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:19:47 GMT

Hi,

I'm modeling a long building (36x140 m2) and when I run the modal analysis it takes quite a long time calculating. It also says that mass participation is not satisfactory. When I try to see the modes of vibration it gets even slower and I dont get to see them.

Structure has 8 slabs, bottom 2 slabs are simply supported to portray the underground walls. Beam is just on contour of slabs, and slab is simply supported on internal columns. I used emmiters above columns for a better meshing option (High number of nodes).

RT file is quite large aprox. 80MB.

Not sure if its normal to take so long due to being a large building, or I am doing something wrong.

Thanks in advance!

File to large for attachment.

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Rafacascudo — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:29:51 GMT

Save the file with a different name and without results(save as) , and then attach it here. Zip/rar it if it is still too big.

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Anonymous — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:47:57 GMT

Sorry, forgot to delete the part where it says file to big for attach. Its zipped in attachment already and I also did it the way you said.

Thanks.

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

eear_gabriel — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 23:38:00 GMT

Rafael, do you recommend any tutorial for learning Robot?

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Simau — Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:56:25 GMT

Hi @Anonymous

you have not converted cases en masse. Case 8 that you tried to convert does not contain any load.
You also neglected the density and you did not convert case 10.
I run your model by converting only the 10 selfwiegth case. And it works fine.
As you have 2 fixed floors on 8 levels, you will never be able to vibrate the 2 lower levels, so 25% of non-convertible masses.
For the message "missing eigenvalues", just clik "No"

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Rafacascudo — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:16:41 GMT

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Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:23:53 GMT

Thanks for the help.

Ive considered just case 10 for mass conversion and I have not considered the "disregard density" option. When I run it on my laptop it takes about 25 mins for the full process (verification and analysis). I started the calculations at 20h49 and got through the whole process at 21h13. Does that seem reasonable?

The modes I am retrieving are different from the ones you posted. Not sure what it is I'm missing here.

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Simau — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:11:42 GMT

@Anonymous

looking at your results, we get the same mobilzed masses.

Frequencies are slightly different.

Did you get warning about "missing eigenvalues" and what did you reply: "yes" or "no"?

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:51:20 GMT

"No" as you said.

How long does it take you to run the calculations?

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

Simau — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 22:35:32 GMT

Yes

calculation time is reasonable, 24 min also here.

You may reduce time by increasing mesh size, you have 161280 finite elements and 902088 degres of freedom

Re: Slow Calculations/Results Modal Analysis

eear_gabriel — Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:17:59 GMT

Cheers mate..I`ll definitely have a look at these sources..thanks again