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    <title>topic Eurocode emission factors - Call for reference in Robot Structural Analysis Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Greetings&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The default values for member and fire emissivity is 0.63 and 0.8 in Robot. From what I can gather from EN 1991-1-2 these should be 0.7 and 1.0.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a reason for this, or perhaps a reference?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="systemRobert_1-1601446050124.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/825369iED08EE7A7938AA03/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="systemRobert_1-1601446050124.png" alt="systemRobert_1-1601446050124.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Robert&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 06:13:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-09-30T06:13:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Eurocode emission factors - Call for reference</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/eurocode-emission-factors-call-for-reference/m-p/9775858#M18039</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Greetings&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The default values for member and fire emissivity is 0.63 and 0.8 in Robot. From what I can gather from EN 1991-1-2 these should be 0.7 and 1.0.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a reason for this, or perhaps a reference?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="systemRobert_1-1601446050124.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/825369iED08EE7A7938AA03/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="systemRobert_1-1601446050124.png" alt="systemRobert_1-1601446050124.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Robert&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 06:13:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-09-30T06:13:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Eurocode emission factors - Call for reference</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/eurocode-emission-factors-call-for-reference/m-p/9784298#M18040</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;En effet, suivant l'Eurocode NF EN 1993-1-2 au chapitre 2.2 Actions :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;(2) En sus des dispositions données dans l’EN 1991-1-2, il convient que l’émissivité liée à la surface de l’acier soit&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;égale à &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;0,7&lt;/FONT&gt; pour l’acier au carbone et égale à 0,4 pour les aciers inoxydables selon l’Annexe C.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Suivant la NF EN 1991-1-2 au chapitre 3.1 Règles générales : (6) Expression 3.3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;NOTE 1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Sauf mention explicite dans les parties des EN 1992 à EN 1996 et de l'EN 1999 relatives au calcul au feu selon les&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;matériaux, il est possible de prendre 0,8 comme valeur de e m .&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;NOTE 2 L'émissivité du feu peut être considérée comme e f = &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;1,0&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://help.autodesk.com/view/RSAPRO/2024/FRA/?guid=GUID-22B2BC1F-6997-43A1-83FC-B5E4F8BA426E" target="_blank"&gt;https://help.autodesk.com/view/RSAPRO/2024/FRA/?guid=GUID-22B2BC1F-6997-43A1-83FC-B5E4F8BA426E&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Objectivement, l'émissivité de l'acier est fonction de son état de surface (galvanisé, meulé, sablé, peint, etc.) et de son type (Inox, doux, etc.). Il est possible aussi que les ENV n'aient pas eu initialement les mêmes&amp;nbsp;valeurs recommandées.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;L'influence (différence&amp;nbsp;entre 0.63 et 0.7 et entre 0.8 et 1.0) sur le calcul feu d'un acier non protégé exposé sur quatre faces doit être de toute façon&amp;nbsp;assez minime. En dehors d'un document solide, il est préférable d'effectuer le calcul avec les valeurs NF.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Pour confirmer, voir les personnes du Support Autodesk de ce forum&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:04:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Stephane.kapetanovic</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-03-20T05:04:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Eurocode emission factors - Call for reference</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/eurocode-emission-factors-call-for-reference/m-p/9784333#M18041</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Indeed, according to Eurocode NF EN 1993-1-2 in chapter 2.2 Actions:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;(&lt;EM&gt;2) In addition to the provisions given in EN 1991-1-2, the emissivity related to the steel surface should be&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;equal to 0.7 for carbon steel and equal to 0.4 for stainless steels according to Annex C.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;According to NF EN 1991-1-2 in chapter 3.1 General rules: (6) Expression 3.3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;NOTE 1 Unless explicitly mentioned in the parts of EN 1992 to EN 1996 and of EN 1999 relating to fire design according to materials, it is possible to take 0.8 as the value of e m.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;NOTE 2 The emissivity of fire can be considered as e f = 1.0.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://help.autodesk.com/view/RSAPRO/2024/FRA/?guid=GUID-22B2BC1F-6997-43A1-83FC-B5E4F8BA426E" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://help.autodesk.com/view/RSAPRO/2024/FRA/?guid=GUID-22B2BC1F-6997-43A1-83FC-B5E4F8BA426E&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Objectively, the emissivity of steel is a function of its surface condition (galvanized, ground, sandblasted, painted, etc.) and its type (stainless steel, mild, etc.). It is also possible that the ENVs did not initially have the same recommended values.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The influence (difference between 0.63 and 0.7 and between 0.8 and 1.0) on the fire calculation of an unprotected steel exposed on four faces must be quite minimal anyway. Apart from a solid document, it is preferable to carry out the calculation with the NF values.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To confirm, see the Autodesk Support people on this forum&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:03:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Stephane.kapetanovic</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-03-20T05:03:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Eurocode emission factors - Call for reference</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/eurocode-emission-factors-call-for-reference/m-p/9784396#M18042</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah, I went with the Eurocode numbers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:24:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-10-05T13:24:27Z</dc:date>
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