topic Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number in Revit Structure Forum

Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:30:06 GMT

Working on a radial grid, but the "concentric" grid lines are NOT circular, they are declinated by 6 degrees per segment

How do I make multiple golumn grids have the same grid number? What workaround do I need?

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

kathryn.langan — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:45:09 GMT

Unfortunately it's not possible to have multiple grids with the same number; they have to be unique. So you'll have to do some manual adjustment. You could turn off the display of grid bubbles and make your own bubble annotation symbol, and place that instead, or you could cover the automatic grid number with opaque text to show a different number. Another possibility would be to add a prefix or suffix to each number to make them slightly different.

If you would like to see this behavior changed I'd suggest providing comments and a business case as to why this is important to your firm at the Feedback Site.

I hope this helps!

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:43:45 GMT

Found a work-around

When editing the column grid number, right click and add Unicode characters, but leave those Unicode characters non-visible.

So, technically, Revit *is* using different column grid IDs, but for printing purposes, we only see the characters we want to.

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

kathryn.langan — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:49:55 GMT

That's an interesting workaround - I've never seen it done that way. Thanks for posting with the reply!

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:32:18 GMT

I tried it but I could not get the same options you have shown.

See the attached image.

I use Windows XP 32 bit OS, Revit 2011 Str. 32 bit.

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

kathryn.langan — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:06:42 GMT

It's actually a Windows control and not specific to Revit. You'll see the right click option in Notepad or in other program text boxes: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/lang_insert_unicode.mspx?mfr=true. It looks like it may have to do with having multiple languages installed on your system, but it's not something I've ever really looked into.

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:34:54 GMT

so when I add the unicode, I can duplicate the grid number...but only once per unicode selection. Is there a way to create new uniccode "categories"

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Joe.Charpentier — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:59:11 GMT

Since this has been bumped back to the top, I should metion that this is now possible in Revit 2013 with Multi-segment Grids.

Joe

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:07:18 GMT

This worked PERFECT! Thank you!

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

billn — Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:09:14 GMT

PERFECT! I was just looking for a way to have multiple 'default' entries for a grid that wouldn't be read by the model when placing initial temporary grids.

For example, I don't know what I am going to label my grids yet, and just want them to read "GRID".

If Revit took the word 'GRID' (or some other special character *, $, @, etc.) and ignored it altogether, I could then place multiple default grids without any labels until I had time to coordinate grid numbering with other parties. It would then save me time later because I would not run into the error of 'The name entered is already in use. Enter a unique name.' over and over again.

It would also be useful if I could change a grid in a specific view only. For example, change the grid tag from it's value to 'GRID' where I have the same section cut in multiple locations on multiple grids. Maybe in the view, have a checkbox option to simply apply the word 'GRID' if the section has been placed in more than one place using the 'reference other view' selector.

Note, that the same workaround of using a unicode separator also works for overwriting dimensions...

Don't kill me, I know its bad to overwrite dimensions but sometimes it is the only practicable option. For example, I have an manufacturers object that is 27" wide and this is just a placeholder and not the actual object as a pre-made model of it does not exist. I know that my actual object is really 33" wide and I need to dimension that somehow. I could modify the modeled object, or simply use a unicode separator in the dimension override after my 33" text. No need to explain to me how to adjust the modelled object and make it right, I know all about that, I am just using that as an example. Another example would be a dimension that really doesn't tie to anything else and it is just there for information during construction of something. The Revit dimension read 6'-3" but it is actually supposed to be 6'-3 1/2". So, I select the dimension and override it and enter 6'-3 1/2" in the overide box and then rightclick in the box and add a unicode seperator. I usually select 'RS'

There are however, numerous occasions where this can be used, but it's kind of like fire... it's a powerful and useful tool, but if you play with it too much, you'll eventually get burned.

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 13:17:11 GMT

Sorry... but how do i put those Unicode characters non-visible???

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

billn — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 13:29:30 GMT

I have found that some on the unicode characters are non-visible elements
and will not display once added. I also discovered that some of the
characters will act similar to a letter so they can't be used more than
once, unless something else changes, or unless you insert the unicode
multiple times.

For example, you type GRID, and then place the uncode 'LRE' (start of left
to right embedding) one time. The next time you write DRID, you'll need to
insert another invisible character, or the character multiple times.

You should go through and try a few of the characters until you discover
which ones work best for you.

Revit still says that the grid bubbles are the same even with unicode
characters if you use the same character, or number of characters, so you
have to make the grids different, but just in a way that is not visible
when drawn.

Hope that helps.

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Nov 2018 17:28:24 GMT

Same question here

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

ToanDN — Thu, 08 Nov 2018 19:10:13 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Same question here

Edit a View name or a Sheet number/name, right click on the name text box and choose Insert Unicode characters to bring up the list, pick one (I recommend the last one) to append it after the normal text. You will not see it but you can use the mouse cursor to highlight it to copyclip it. Now you can edit the grid name and paste it in.

You can create a view and use an Unicode character for the name so that you can re-use the character later without going though the steps.

Re: Multiple column grids, same grid number

Alfredo.morillasvalverde — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:08:30 GMT

Thanks. it works