topic Re: Unable to flex nested framing length - Analytical model issue in Revit Structure Forum

Unable to flex nested framing length - Analytical model issue

cuen.saul — Thu, 19 May 2016 17:20:15 GMT

Hi everyone.

This issue is regarding structural families. Right now I'm trying to create a FRAMING family (Structural Framing - Beams and Braces template) in which will be another FRAMING components (again Structural Framing - Beams and Braces based) nested.

The historic problem I have dealed with since 2010 is, I cannot flex the length of the nested beam properly or, can flex the length but is unconstrained once I change types by parameter.

The solution of many of us would be used another family template, in fact, I already "solve" this issue by using Generic Model line based template, and changing the FAMILY CATEGORY to framing.

My problem is, if I use Structural Framing - Beams and Braces template and check the SHARE parameter for the nested framings, the HOST framing once inserted into a project, will have the analytical of all those nested framings. Using Generic Model line based template, Structural Framing - Complex and Trusses or Structural Stiffener Line Based, and changing the category will not achieve this that for me is a very important issue.

If not, I have to model the ANALYTICAL MODEL manually using framings and columns, then, erase those framings and columns and finally inserting a CUSTOM FRAMING FAMILY that behaves graphically as I need it (also in matters of take off, annotations, symbols, etc. Thats why I need the custom family).

Or...is it even possible to create a family and customize the analytical model?

Thank you all

Regards.

Saul Cuen

Re: Unable to flex nested framing length - Analytical model issue

Rafal.Gaweda — Tue, 31 May 2016 12:11:43 GMT

Dear Saul

In addition to your foundings:

You should be able to add the analytical line while defining the in-place structural beam or column element. It will be a Analytical Model [Projection Line]. Create the solid shape, then before selecting to Finish Model (Green Check Box), choose the Model line Button from the In-Place Modeling Panel. Then use the Analytical Model [Project Line] Type to draw in your analytical line.
Then Finish Model....Hope this helps you out!

Re: Unable to flex nested framing length - Analytical model issue

cuen.saul — Tue, 31 May 2016 22:22:38 GMT

Dear Rafal, thank you very much for your reply.

Honestly I haven't used the Analytical Model within Model-in-Place. Looks like a useful tool so, I would think it only makes sense to add that ability to the Family Editor and not only the Model-in-Place editor. I usually use this options for complex concrete structures but not for framing. I'll look for a use for this but, the solution exists in Revit language. If only that Analytical Model line were available in the Family Editor.

Thanks again and best regards.

Saul Cuen