topic Re: Column Filter Level in Revit Structure Forum

Column Filter Level

Karol_Piroska — Fri, 26 May 2017 12:53:19 GMT

Hi guys, could anyone please clarify what is the exact meaning in column filters - Base or Top Level is below / above? I would assume that if I specify that smth is below level it would be anything below that level. It seems tho that it is only the next level below/above and does not apply to the level after (sub level).

For illustration I created a test file:

first image shows column correctly filtered be base level being at Level 1

second image shows filter based on Base level being at or above Level 1. For some reason it filters even columns with base level at foundation level.

third image shows filter based on Base level below Level 1. Only column with base at ground floor is filtered, not columns at foundation level.

Btw it is Revit 2016.

Basically I need to filter columns at certain levels to easily indicated full height columns, columns only up to certain level etc.

Thanks for any clarification on this.

Re: Column Filter Level

A_MAQ — Sat, 27 May 2017 07:53:44 GMT

Hi @Karol_Piroska,

all what revit does is reading parameter , if the base level of column set to level 1 for example and have minus offset it will work with that column as a column associated to level 1.

so it depends on the base level name or top level .

Best,

Re: Column Filter Level

Karol_Piroska — Sat, 27 May 2017 20:00:40 GMT

Ameen,

if you look at the second screenshot the filter is set for columns with base at or above Level 1. But the first 3 columns have base level at Foundation level (2 with offsets) and that is below that level not above, yet they are filtered by the rule.

third one has filter for column below level 1 (not offset below). It filters correctly column at ground floor but not columns at foundation level which is below level 1.

Re: Column Filter Level

A_MAQ — Sat, 27 May 2017 21:23:11 GMT

could you attach the file you are working on ?

Re: Column Filter Level

Anonymous — Mon, 29 May 2017 09:04:12 GMT

Hello @Karol_Piroska

the Filter always depend on what the parameter sees. even if the elements in located or pass through from foundation up to the level 2. if the parameter sees its located its base on Ground level but I has a negative value - 1200( for example) and visually located in Foundation level. The filter would say its in the Ground level.

Re: Column Filter Level

Karol_Piroska — Mon, 29 May 2017 09:44:43 GMT

Hi arjay.eco,

thank you for your reply. I understand it reads parameters, but this is not about column offsets. If I have a column with base at foundation level (not offset), and this columns top level is at level 2, filter set for columns with level below Level 1 should by my opinion filter this column too as foundation level is below Level 1 same as Level 0.

See screencast below:

Re: Column Filter Level

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2017 01:13:24 GMT

Hello @Karol_Piroska,

I just followed what you did on your screencast. but it seems we have different out come.

The column in red in your screencast, it turned red because of the filter right?

I followed your screencast step by step however, the column with a base level of foundation and Top level of Level 2 turns out not to be filtered

based on my work. I don't know why we have different out come even if we did the same thing.

Re: Column Filter Level

Karol_Piroska — Tue, 30 May 2017 09:07:45 GMT

Thanks for your time Arjay.eco,

dont understand it. I tried it in a project based on our company template and then OTB templates as well with same result. And in 2016, 2017 and even in 2018 which I havent even had time to test yet properly. Attached is the one based on OTB template 2016.

Re: Column Filter Level

A_MAQ — Tue, 30 May 2017 11:20:50 GMT

So all what you want is to filter all columns under a specific level ?

if that what you are looking for , this method will not work correctly,

you may need to use dynamo to perform such thing

Best,

Re: Column Filter Level

Orsolya.Balazs — Tue, 06 Jun 2017 08:42:48 GMT

Dear Karoli,

I have run a quick check for this scneario comparing behavior in Revit 2016-2018 using columns at similar setting as in your previous video, and it seems the issue has been resolved in Revit 2018. Let me post a very short recording about this test:http://autode.sk/2syLOSg

I see that with your template you still see issue-may relate to the "older data". Could you please check this behavior with any new 2018 template how it works.

Re: Column Filter Level

Karol_Piroska — Tue, 06 Jun 2017 09:23:41 GMT

Thank you Orsolya,

yes it appears to be working in 2018. Unfortunately I cannot upgrade current project to this version.

Small edit: This only seem to work when creating file from scratch. When upgrading an existing file the filter does not work.

Re: Column Filter Level

Orsolya.Balazs — Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:07:10 GMT

You are welcome Karoli.

I see that is still an issue for 2016 ongoing project. To workaround this situation you may try to modify a bit the filter rules. If there is only one "minus" level this would mean the following settings:

For "above base level" situation you can add a second criteria in the same filter:

For "below base level" situation you may need to add a secon filter override rule: