topic Re: Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall in Revit Structure Forum

Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

PTo-TT — Mon, 13 May 2024 09:02:37 GMT

Hi,

I have a problem with steel framing cutback at ends of structural wall, they cannot show cutback distance same as framings between the span of 02 walls. My question is it possible to make steel beams at wall ends to have the same cutback distance as normally? If you had any idea, please help me, most appreciate!

Re: Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

jay_colc — Mon, 13 May 2024 10:49:57 GMT

I do not think it is possible within the Properties. The vertical Beams have a Cutback Value in the Properties whereas the Horizontal Beam Do Not and it must be due to the automatic association with the walls for the Vertical beams.

Therefore the closest to automatically doing this I can think of would be to replicate it by placing a Dummy Wall to host the Horizontal Beams and unjoin so it is not linked to the existing walls and draw the beams from this wall then hide it?

Re: Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

jay_colc — Mon, 13 May 2024 10:49:13 GMT

The alternative would be to manually Drag the Symbolic Line away from the Wall and Drag the Beam Shape Handle Arrow back to the Face of the Wall

Re: Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

PTo-TT — Mon, 13 May 2024 11:04:42 GMT

Thank you very much @jay_colc , but I think this is not my best solution since we are about making structural drawing sheets from views, so the cutback distance must be consistency at every scale. Thank you again for your idea!

Re: Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

charlie — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 14:18:34 GMT

Why does the cutback option drop off of beams? Sometimes I will have both cutbacks available, sometimes one and then sometimes neither. It is very frustrating when Revit decides what it wants to do by itself. I've tried re-placing new beams and it gives me the same thing. There doesn't seem to be any reasoning as to how the program decides the way it wants to display. The option to change cutback reference is grayed out. That is one of the worst features of this program. I'll place a beam system and 3/4 of the beams will show correctly while the other 1/4 shows no cutback. Is there a way to force it to have a cutback when one doesn't seem to be available? I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to make the program display the correct way.

Thanks,

Charlie

Re: Structural Framing Joint Cutback at Start/End of Structural Wall

PTo-TT — Mon, 05 Aug 2024 07:28:09 GMT

@charlie
It's probably 1/4 of framings you mentioned were not joined with anything at their ends. The cutback mechanism is only show if that framing is modeled as joined with other framing, wall or column.