topic Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model in Revit Structure Forum

quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 16:34:46 GMT

We have a complete structural model and the architect has mirrored the building. what is the quickest way to mirror an entire model?

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

ToanDN — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:15:38 GMT

It depends on how developed your model is. If it is not too developed, use the Mirror Project tool directly. If it is, or you are running into errors using that tool, then link your model to a new file, mirror it, move to the correct location (may need to link the arch file as well for reference), and finally bind the link.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

A_MAQ — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 09:38:21 GMT

use mirror tool or even group the entire model then mirror after that

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:56:07 GMT

Its a risky job. especially if elements are locked to grid lines. Saving your existing model as something else (different name) and linking it to you model, mirror it a move to to where you want it the either explode or copy (from the linked model) and paste elements to the "same location" could be another option.

As stated in the previous comments it all depend of the complexity of you model and what you what to achieve.

You need to think of avoiding repetition in the future model developments. Every time you have to change one model you have follow the whole mirroring process all the time which could become a pain.

If all the models are the same then refer to one model as SIM 🙂

good luck.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

gideon — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:07:25 GMT

I develope this method to mirror the whole house including the annotations for a single family house.

i have three floors (only in architectural plans).

first i go to the basement plan. highlight everything things in the plan and the Filter button appear, and beside it are "save", "load" and "edit buttons.

with all the basement elements including annotations like dimenions highlighted, i pressed the save (beside the words "filter") button, and save the filter as "whole house filter"

next, go to the first floor plan, then go to the "view" tab , "graphics" ribbon and press the "filter" button. now press the "load" button and pick "whole house filter" , now press " add to selection" button, and check the "multiple" check box below, and then highlight everything on the first floor plan including annotations. now press the finish button beside the " multiple"check box and then pick "finish selection"..

go to second floor plan, repeat step in last paragraph.

final step is to load the filter now for "whole house filter" when you are in one of the floor plan, then use the mirror command to mirror entire model.

hope that help.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 08:23:37 GMT

Filter sets is very handy "hidden" tool.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

RobohoboRabbit — Fri, 03 Aug 2018 08:06:32 GMT

if your model contains any rebar or elements in it with constraints copying and mirroring can cause a lot of issues with resizing of elements and the only way to now is to check them all.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 18:41:31 GMT

@gideon Hi

What is the reason you create and save the filters for each level?

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

gideon — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:58:57 GMT

hello,

the idea is to store all floors in one filter.

before I mirror the whole house by grouping, the annotations will not be mirrored and it will be a mess.

if you use the mirror project command in revit, everthing will be mirrored including the site plan stuff.

that is why i develope the mirror by filters method.

hope that help.

thanks,gid

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 20:05:14 GMT

@gideon yes somewhat. I would understand about the annotation not following suit. Ill have to try thinking on doing this sometime. I wonder if by creating such filters i could also avoid the annotation clean up when rotating my model (model views)? Thanks! 🙂

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

utdragdad — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:57:05 GMT

I do not see the load button when I go to the view tab and select filters?????

Ahhh there it is under the MANAGE tab

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

gideon — Wed, 22 Aug 2018 00:41:04 GMT

sorry, i never tried "rotate" by this filtering method.

but try it, you can always rotate it , close the file and not save it if you do not like the results.

warm regards, gideon

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:58:16 GMT

@gideon yeah its worth a try. Every time we have to rotate a model afterwards we have to go an fix all the tags and annotation as it does not rotate properly. Ill give it a shot and let you know if the filters affect it in any way. 🙂

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

ipselute — Fri, 15 May 2020 13:17:55 GMT

In Revit 2020 can you try: Manage menu-> Position (drop-down) -> Mirror Project command ?

I had an old (complete) project done in Revit 2017 with hundreds of views and dozens of sheets. This command worked with 2 warnings and and 2 errors. Some dimensions lost reference points and i choosed to delete them to nulify the errors. Otherwise everything seems right (all floor plans, all sections, were mirrored). The sheet views are displayed right.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Jason.P — Fri, 15 May 2020 16:28:06 GMT

we work on numerous condo projects where buildings are "the same" but orientated differently. the key is to know when to mirror or rotate the project into a new file for the other "exact same" building. If you are like us, things are never the same, there will be different garage entrances, canopies, balcony layouts etc etc. You will still have to do work with annotation and checking sections and the likes. there is no easy button yet for projects like this but it is way better then it used to be.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

ipselute — Fri, 15 May 2020 19:16:17 GMT

@Jason.P: I used to do all that mirroring in Autocad. It is more precise, either mirroring as individual elements or entire drawing as a block. But you'd still have to adjust the "labels" = texts with leaders or with other associated graphical symbols. The text itself will still be readable but the symbols will always be on the wrong side of the text.

In Revit you won't have this kind of problem, as the labels are parametric, therefore the label text and the graphical symbols will always stay right no matter how many times you mirror it.

Heck, i always prefer to recreate a couple of dimensions in Revit instead of "fixing" hundreds of Autocad mirrored labels. Multiply that hundred by dozen of sheets/layouts and you'll get my point. Parametric stuff is always easier to manipulate.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 11:41:19 GMT

Fantastic command! Only 3 clicks. Saved me hours of work.

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

gideon — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 21:56:18 GMT

yes, better use "mirror project" command to do the job

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

kwoodBJKPP — Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:30:43 GMT

When I select filters from the view tab, I can't see where I can load a filter. Can you please advise?

Re: quickest way to mirror a complete model

Jason.P — Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:47:35 GMT