topic Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN. in Revit Structure Forum

SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 06:09:18 GMT

I CANT JOIN THIS BEAM AND STAIR, HOWEVER MATERIAL IS SAME.

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

ToanDN — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 06:23:44 GMT

Stairs and ramps cannot join with anything.

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

A_MAQ — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:07:13 GMT

use model in place beam , because as @ToanDN said

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

ashari_ttw — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 09:14:19 GMT

The reason..between Concrete Stair and Concrete Beam/Concrete Column cannot joined maybe because both of "them" is diferent dicipline...Stair/Ramp only in Architecture and Beam/Column Concrete is Structural...I thin'k...Asutodesk must find the way out to resolve this problem...

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

ashari_ttw — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 09:15:44 GMT

Sorry Correcting the word Autodesk..(Revit Team)

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

ahjorn — Tue, 03 Aug 2021 10:36:40 GMT

As previously stated, you won't be able to join your stairs to any other element.

A handy work around that we've been using for years is to model an in place family using the "Floor" category. You will then be able to join them to floors, beams and even columns. Walls and columns (base and top) may even be attached to the in place family due to its behaviour based on the "Floor" category.

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

Prvoime — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 15:32:46 GMT

@ahjorn wrote:
A handy work around that we've been using for years is to model an in place family using the "Floor" category. You will then be able to join them to floors, beams and even columns.

I tried this and it's still not letting me join modeled "beam" to the stairs. Everything is the same material. I tried with the floor and stairs category, doesn't work. Any idea how to force it to join?

Not sure why I can't share revit file on the forum. Here's a file sharing link to it if anyone could take a look.
https://we.tl/t-5phlvcyljb

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

ahjorn — Mon, 09 Aug 2021 05:37:00 GMT

Hi @Prvoime,

You seem to have misunderstood the concept. The file you provided has a stair modeled with the stair tool and a beam modeled as a floor. It is states above that stairs won't join to other elements this is why I suggested modeling the stair with the floor tool. That way it can be joined to other floors and beams as well.

I attached your file.

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

Prvoime — Mon, 09 Aug 2021 07:25:52 GMT

@ahjorn wrote:
modeling the stair with the floor tool

I definitely misunderstood. You have to manually model the entire stair! My God, Revit really hates anything made of concrete. This is absolutely baffling.

Thanks for explaining it!

Re: SAME MATERIAL BEAM AND STAIR CANT JOIN.

ahjorn — Mon, 09 Aug 2021 14:49:27 GMT

Whether you model the stair with the stair tool or the floor tool you still have to model the entire stair. You make it seem more difficult than it is. Revit doesn't hate concrete though, it's just the behavior of concrete in the software that needs to be updated/adapted to what we as structural users try to accomplish but I understand your frustration. I think we've all been there on our Revit learning curve journey.