topic Re: Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans in Revit Structure Forum

Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans

andrei.boboc — Wed, 07 Aug 2019 09:23:18 GMT

Hello,

I'm Romanian engineer and in my country, the representations of structural elements are too complicated and different from many other countries. Now I have a problem with the representation of lintels that result above the doors placed in concrete walls.

When I modeled the structure, I'm not thinking that when I place the doors in a concrete wall, the areas when result above the doors, do not be separately element. So now I can't tag this side as a lintel, or a beam.

Now, I think to make beams above all doors and, after that, I can to tag these sides, but I don't like this because at finish, in materials schedules, I risk to doublet the concrete material to the lintes sides. I can apply the filter that the schedules to exclude the elements that have one notation in comment.

Thanks.

PS: Sorry for my bad English.

Re: Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans

Tom_Kunsman — Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:47:00 GMT

So, what are you trying to ask as your question?

Re: Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans

andrei.boboc — Wed, 07 Aug 2019 11:43:50 GMT

Oh, yes, I'm sorry. I don't know what I made but I forgot to write the question 😁

In Romania, must be present the floor's formwork plans. For example one of the particularities of those plans is that those contain the folded sections. look the folded sections and tag for beam

In those plans must be tagged all horizontals elements. If the construction in the discussion is from concrete, and I placed the doors in a concrete wall, the area above the door that resulted in I can't be tagged ass lintel because there is a wall.

here is a wall and the door placed in this. The side above the door, now, is wall, but I find solution to keep this that way and tag as lintel

If I want to tag that element as a lintel, must be split the wall and place a beam between resulted walls. But, this operation takes long times.

The question is if you meet any similar situations and how it is resolved.

Re: Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans

vajdiar — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:40:26 GMT

Hi, how did you get those folded sections to a formwork plan?

Thanks

Re: Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans

awes — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 11:06:42 GMT

Make a generic wall based family.

Insert reference planes so that you can flex the family.

Start with a void and lock it to the wall using reference planes and wall faces. Then you have an opening.

Insert after that a lintel family based on a wall based generic family in that same opening. Lock it to reference planes.

Lintel can be tagged and scheduled and wall area and volume will also be correctly calculated.

Re: Representation of lintels in floor formwork plans

andrei.boboc — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:58:23 GMT

Hello,
As a working principle, I make the view first. Then I do the sections. And at the end, I assemble on sheet all the sections superimposed on the view.