topic Re: Symbolic cutback for structural framing plans on a slope in Revit Structure Forum

Symbolic cutback for structural framing plans on a slope

draft1 — Fri, 02 May 2025 18:38:52 GMT

In Revit, when the framing is modelled flat and modelled correctly, the lines that represent joists bearing on a beam will (in a plan view) cutback from the beam and the beam line will cutback from the column it's connected to. I think that's called the symbolic cutback. In my experience, the cutback does not work when the framing is modelled on a sloping plane.

Is there a straight-forward, reliable way to make the symbolic cutback work for slope framing in a plan view?

Re: Symbolic cutback for structural framing plans on a slope

jay_colc — Tue, 06 May 2025 08:51:40 GMT

In Revit 2025 it appears to work as expected as indicated below! Do you have a specific example of where this is an issue?

In 2026 I know there has been some changes to cutbacks and representations but for 2025 you can still edit the Symbolic Representation

Help | About Symbolic Representation for Structural Framing Elements | Autodesk

Re: Symbolic cutback for structural framing plans on a slope

draft1 — Tue, 06 May 2025 13:56:55 GMT

Beam to column works in a predictable fashion because end of beam can attach to top of column. For joist to girder (and beam to beam), it is an issue. Modelled in the same fashion using beam systems on the same sloping reference plane, the results are inconsistent. Some beam systems will cut back and others will not.

Re: Symbolic cutback for structural framing plans on a slope

jay_colc — Tue, 06 May 2025 14:58:43 GMT

The only time I have seen this is when Beam Systems are used and you are picking Beams on different Levels but reality, they are planar, and you need to place them on a Reference Plane/Slope - Below differing Beam Heights with a Reference Plan set as a Slope

Alternatively, if you have Beams at different Levels turning on the 3D option in the Properties Palette can resolve this issue.

Not Selecting 3D results in this output using the exact same placement method for beams at differing levels/heights

Re: Symbolic cutback for structural framing plans on a slope

draft1 — Tue, 06 May 2025 18:14:16 GMT

Thanks for your replies. This appears as though it should be easy and repeatable. I'll examine my technique.