topic Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!! in Revit Structure Forum

Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

Tengbimkub — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:08:58 GMT

In this new version I cannot see member analytical model ... and also I didn't see the option to turn on/off structural option for column and beam too. What's happening ?

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

alan.johnson7YLND — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:04:53 GMT

In Revit 2023 we now have Analytical Driven Modelling, this differs from the derived analytical model as contextual analytical elements are not created automatically when the physical model is created.

Revit 2023 has a new Automation feature to generate a structural analytical model based on selected physical elements.

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

EdwinG — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 20:19:07 GMT

See this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ClsmT-EMzY&t=1s

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

arjanpol — Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:10:00 GMT

Hi,

has anyone reviewed this new feauture?

We are trying out ways to export our analytical models to our 3D construction calculation software (Axis VM).

For testing I upgraded a Revit 2022 model to 2023, deleted the analytical model and let the new Dynamo script generate a new one. The quality of the new analytical model however was less than the automatically created one in Revit 2022. No joins between walls/floors or walls/walls are made for example.

Does anyone have experience with this new feature?

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

RPTHOMAS108 — Wed, 13 Apr 2022 22:23:01 GMT

Early days so not much usage from people yet I expect.

I can see the overwhelming advantages of divorcing the two things. Also reduces the demand on Revit in terms of having to constantly update the analytical in the background. Not many going to miss those 'Analytical model has been reset' messages I expect. Also sometimes you got stuck in a loop e.g. couldn't finish editing the sketch to floor in a group because one of the similar floors in a different instance of the same group had a shaft at the edge creating a tiny slither of analytical. Also allows you to associate an analytical model with a more diverse range of things and represent such without being limited to what a parametric option allows e.g. form of alignment.

Surprised they made it dependant on Dynamo would have thought they could have a button in Revit for generating the analytical. Couldn't have been the easiest way for them to achieve that but then again perhaps they want you to improve the Dynamo graph where it is lacking.

I have a feeling this will create a kind of arms race in terms of who has the best in-house Dynamo/API solution for generating analytical from physical or the other way around. The default one offered will improve over time from feedback I'm sure.

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

emam3100 — Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:46:24 GMT

thank you

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

Tengbimkub — Mon, 14 Nov 2022 05:52:59 GMT

You can add new way of creating Analytical model, that's Fine. But please don't remove the old way of creating analytical model that come automatically from modeling the physical geometry, you can just have a checkbox for whether user want or don't want the old analytical model.

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

LilyBeyer — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:15:47 GMT

I'm just running into this for the first time. OMG why does Autodesk break existing workflows without warning! I went to export a building for analysis and it turns out I need to do a whole separate process to generate an analytical model? At least make it a check box, instead of completely hiding the method for creating analytical members.

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

akingSXGWC — Fri, 12 Jan 2024 05:09:37 GMT

This is so awful, it used to be so easy to pull some random group of framing (canopy, screenwall) and export that to RISA, run analysis and be done. WHY, WHY, make things harder...?

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

parag_sidhpuraEDQHL — Tue, 05 Mar 2024 18:09:15 GMT

Autodesk are stupid.

They have ruined the best feature of Revit. Have they lost their mind or what!!!

It is taking me hours to do something that took me seconds.

F****n joke, will be looking for a cheaper software now that Revit has become useless.

Re: Revit 2023 - Analytical Model issue !!!

davidjimm — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:40:54 GMT

I agree. Revit is useless without this feature, which is now crippled.