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    <title>topic Re: Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips? in Revit Structure Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;There is no draw order here so you cannot control this manually.&amp;nbsp; Do you use the Preselect option whereby you hover over the Text Leader/Note to indicate it (turns Blue) prior to clicking to ensure you select the exact object you need?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_0-1746691998253.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1531445i5FC48E90B3D59221/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_0-1746691998253.png" alt="jay_colcombe_0-1746691998253.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This method then opens up the option to edit the Leader Nodes again by hovering and they turn darker when hovering over with a Tooltip in most instances to Drag&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_1-1746692080794.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1531446i3858615B6B3F2726/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_1-1746692080794.png" alt="jay_colcombe_1-1746692080794.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 08:15:50 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jay_colc</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-05-08T08:15:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13618231#M113</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When I place a new text note and create a leader off the note, when I try to select the grips of the leader to point to where it needs to point, when I try to select a grip that is near or over a drafting view (not selected), Revit will ALWAYS choose the unselected drafting view over the grip on the already highlighted text and leader.&amp;nbsp; Does anyone know of any way to turn that feature off?&amp;nbsp; I know I can tab to select the grip I want, but I shouldn't have to as the text and leader is already highlighted.&amp;nbsp; What absolutely stupid reason is the reason Revit has this "feature"?&amp;nbsp; Any help to turn it off would be appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 13:58:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>loren.g.morris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-07T13:58:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13619627#M114</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There is no draw order here so you cannot control this manually.&amp;nbsp; Do you use the Preselect option whereby you hover over the Text Leader/Note to indicate it (turns Blue) prior to clicking to ensure you select the exact object you need?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_0-1746691998253.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1531445i5FC48E90B3D59221/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_0-1746691998253.png" alt="jay_colcombe_0-1746691998253.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This method then opens up the option to edit the Leader Nodes again by hovering and they turn darker when hovering over with a Tooltip in most instances to Drag&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_1-1746692080794.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1531446i3858615B6B3F2726/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_1-1746692080794.png" alt="jay_colcombe_1-1746692080794.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 08:15:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13619627#M114</guid>
      <dc:creator>jay_colc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-08T08:15:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13620742#M115</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I already select the text, but if one of the grips is anywhere near a section cut, revit defaults to selecting the cut, even though I had actively selected the text first.&amp;nbsp; It is maddening as I cannot think of any reason to have this behaviour.&amp;nbsp; It is like if you are playing golf on one hole and as soon as your ball lands anywhere near a closer green, even if it is on another hole,&amp;nbsp; you must aim for the new hole on the closer green.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 19:48:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>loren.g.morris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-08T19:48:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13621429#M116</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am unsure of your processes you state a Drafting View but then a Section Cut which you cannot have in a Drafting View is this a Detail View?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you placing Text notes in a Sheet View with a Drafting/Detail View?&amp;nbsp; If so does turning off the View/Crop Boundary make this easier?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Apologies for all the questions I am just trying to get an understanding of you process as I would create a View albeit Drafting/Detail and put all my notes dims etc. in the View directly and then place on a sheet so not really dealing with Views and Annotations separately on a Sheet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 08:05:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13621429#M116</guid>
      <dc:creator>jay_colc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-09T08:05:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13628800#M117</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am working in a plan view.&amp;nbsp; A standard section cut has been placed on the wall.&amp;nbsp; I place a text note second and need to create a text leader that points to the wall where the section is cut.&amp;nbsp; When the leader that is initially created lands over the section cut, even though the text is highlighted and the grips on the leader are shown over the section cut.&amp;nbsp; When I try to select one of the grips over the section cut, Revit will automatically pick the section cut even though the grips on the text leader are already highlighted and I am over the grip to select the text leader grip.&amp;nbsp; Why does Revit ignore the previously highlighted grip to select the section cut when I try to choose the highlighted grip?&amp;nbsp; It happens with other grips as well, but the text leader grips occur most often.&amp;nbsp; I would like to turn that "feature" off so I can work with the grips without having to press tab to select the grip even though the text and leader are already selected.&amp;nbsp; It is probably the most stupid "feature" I have run into in Revit.&amp;nbsp; I hope that description helps.&amp;nbsp; I have also included a picture to help you understand.&amp;nbsp; In the first image, the text is selected and the leader grips are highlighted, in the second image I hovered over the end grip of the leader and it is possible to see Revit thinks I want to go to the section instead of the grip I am wanting to select as it was highlighted first.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 20:19:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13628800#M117</guid>
      <dc:creator>loren.g.morris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-13T20:19:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does Revit select a drafting view over grips?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13629292#M118</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the clarity it makes much more sense now!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can only assume that it sees the Text as a priority over a leader as the Text relates to a function whereby you can "Display the View defined by this section" by double-clicking?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even Pinning the Section and Turning Off Select Pinned Elements this can still be selected which reinforces you point about it always being selectable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_3-1747206027824.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1533196i56515FAAF1139082/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_3-1747206027824.png" alt="jay_colcombe_3-1747206027824.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Setting up a similar scenario&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_0-1747204226524.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1533189iE6CCFC203D88D214/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_0-1747204226524.png" alt="jay_colcombe_0-1747204226524.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my version on 2025 if I hover and select the Text and Leader and then Hover over the End Node it goes the darker Pre-Select colour and the word "Drag" appears knowing what action it will apply next and then I an move without issue which again reinforces the above.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_4-1747206187876.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1533197iF84501FAEE92CF39/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_4-1747206187876.png" alt="jay_colcombe_4-1747206187876.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The quickest solution is as you mention to use Tab to Cycle -Select the End Node or alternatively use the Temporary View Settings to Hide the Section but again takes additonal steps which you are trying to avoid&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jay_colcombe_2-1747205156518.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1533195iD9E55FAA931C63C1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jay_colcombe_2-1747205156518.png" alt="jay_colcombe_2-1747205156518.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 07:03:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/why-does-revit-select-a-drafting-view-over-grips/m-p/13629292#M118</guid>
      <dc:creator>jay_colc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-14T07:03:14Z</dc:date>
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