topic Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project? in Revit MEP Forum

Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 15:05:36 GMT

We are required to produce a drainage model which only uses manufacturer approved angles. Therefore, in the MEP settings of the drainage model, we would need to add the new angles 88 and 69.

My question is are we able to add angles in the 'use specific angles' section of the MEP settings?

If we are not able to do so, how have others got around the problem of drainage angles being non standard?

Regards

Karan

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

L.Maas — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:16:34 GMT

You are not able to add specific angles.

A few possible options. Modify the fittings families so they will become constrained to a limited number of angles.

Use slope. When you add piping you can add a slope (%) to the pipe. Slopes you can add and delete (but still able to manually override).

You would have to convert between % an degrees to add the correct values.

Degrees = Tan-1 (Slope Percent/100)

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:20:05 GMT

Could you please point me in the direction of how to constrain the angles of a fitting?

The slope issue isn't a problem just the angles of the pipe in plan.

Thank you for the reply.

Regards
Karan

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Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

L.Maas — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 22:06:41 GMT

Karan,

I opened an elbow family as example. You see that there are several angle parameters.

Those have to be constrained with some addtional parameter and formulas.

For example

It is of course also possible just to make two (fixed) elbows. One of 69 degrees and another of 88 degrees and attach one or the other depending on your needs.

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:40:42 GMT

Thanks for the reply.

I have checked the family of the drainainge bend fitting and it appears as though those angles have already been constrained.

I have tried the MEP mechanical settings to be set at 'use any angle' and 'use specifiic angle' but the angles 69 and 88 still do not be drawn.

Regards

Karan

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

L.Maas — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:19:36 GMT

The angle in the family you point out is not constrained. At the moment it is an instance value and still can take all values (at the moment just 88°)

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:04:07 GMT

Thanks for the reply.

I have now constrained the fitting as you suggested (I think). I created a new pipe family and loaded the fitting into the routing preferences.

When I then model with the new pipe fitting it draws an angle of 60, but in the properties it shows that the angle is 60 and the constrained angle is 69.

Even when I draw the pipes close to a 69 degree angle the actual fitting snaps back to 60 degrees.

Regards

Karan

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

L.Maas — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:56:48 GMT

Look closely at the second image of my earlier post. You will see that I have replaced some of the parameters in the model and that I added a formula in the parameters window.

Hereby an example of a modified elbow. It needs some checking to se if it works well.

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:32:09 GMT

Thank you for sending your elbow family.

Unfortunately, we are working on 2014 and cannot open your RFA file!

I have attached my attempt at creating the elbow fitting as per your guidelines in the image.

Thanks

Karan

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

L.Maas — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:21:53 GMT

I see what I can do later. I only have Revit 2015 available at the moment.

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

L.Maas — Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:37:46 GMT

I did a quick example of an elbow in Revit 2013.

Re: Is there a way to add specific angles in the MEP settings of a project?

Mark.Friis — Tue, 02 Apr 2019 08:46:10 GMT

The Problem is: Even through making a new Family with constrained Angles, the Pipes will still connect with a near 90° Angle to the 88° Fitting.. it doesnt work. It Looks like the Fitting only Visually changes, but the angle remains..

In the MEP-Settings i set the Option to Free-Angles and tried to draw a 90° Elbow with my 88° Elbow-Family., the Elbow now goes to 89,7°..... See the attaced Picture.