topic Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter in Revit MEP Forum

Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:48:06 GMT

I believe I know the answer to my own question. Which is, it can't be done. But, I really hope someone has an idea to get around it. So, on our light fixtures. We have the primary connector circuited to the power panel. The secondary connector circuited to a relay panel. I need to get both the circuit numbers for the primary and the secondary connectors in a tag. I can get the primary circuit number in easy enough. But, no idea how to go about getting the secondary circuit number in the same tag... or any tag for that matter. Any ideas would be great.

Thanks,

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

pteague — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:16:59 GMT

This is an issue in Revit. Only the primary circuit will show up in a tag. The workaround is to draw a small piece of wire from the secondary connection and tag the wire. This wire tag will show the circuit of the secondary connector.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:47:32 GMT

I've seen this workaround since like 2010. I wonder if they will get a fix on it sometime. Thanks for the info. though.

I have another circuiting issue if you have any ideas. Our Lighting Control designers now want us to show; panel name, panel supplied from and the circuits from that panel. On a tag. I can get the panel name and supply from. But, the circuit from the supply. Seems close to impossible.????

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

pteague — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:48:24 GMT

I think it's right there on the list with "make 3-way light switches possible". 😕

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:50:50 GMT

haha! My wish list seems to grow every year.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:54:41 GMT

Any solution to hide the wire on our documentation sheets? It would take days to try and resize it on every light fixture just to show the tag.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

pteague — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:23:24 GMT

Are you talking about right clicking and hide in view by element? I don't remember off hand if that also hides the tag or not.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:40:00 GMT

My first thought was along the same lines. Turn off the wires in VG. It hide the tag as well. We try and stay away from hiding things in views. We have had some serious issues with this in the past. But, a possible option.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

pteague — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:47:57 GMT

Another option would be to create a new wire type, make a filter for that wire type name, and override the color to white. This still could have setbacks if the white wire crosses another object, but it's another possibility.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:10:17 GMT

I was thinking the same thing. Its an option for sure. I will have to think about this a little.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

fabiosato — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:57:25 GMT

My suggestion is to change the color of wires to white

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

fabiosato — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:11:55 GMT

You can try something interesting, nest a shared family with a electrical connector, you will find out that it is possible to select it and create a circuit and tag it!!!

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 18:45:59 GMT

How exactly do you circuit the nested family? I'm not seeing it when I attempt it in a test model.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

fabiosato — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 20:58:36 GMT

Hello Timmy,

Create a family with, lets say some lines, so you can select it, and place a conector in the workplane, nest it to another family, but it is very important to mark the parameter SHARED.

When you place the host family, place the cursor over the linework and press TAB until you select the nested family, check in the status bar.

Then you will get the option to create a circuit.

Good luck!

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

vsrkk2005 — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 12:18:51 GMT

take another connector for the same light fixture for another side, and give the properties like emergency lighting and load the project.

you can get two connector in one light fixture and you can give ciruiting in one light with two differnt DB's.

siva kumar

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

smbrennan — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:56:35 GMT

Here's a family I 'frankensteined' together. It contains two small quarter-sized families at the top of the rack. They are nested electrical devices. When loaded into a project, you can TAB-SELECT the individual connectors and circuit them individually, but still link the parameters to other electrical data - such as VA.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:19:59 GMT

Thanks for the family. I actually ended up doing the exact same thing in my fixture families. It seems to be working pretty good. Appreciate the idea. My new issue is getting that circuit # to work in the same tag as my power circuit tag. Does not seems to work. Looks like 2 tags it is.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

smbrennan — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:38:58 GMT

Yeah, that may be the best method for now.

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

m-de-lange — Wed, 23 Aug 2023 09:25:06 GMT

Hello,

Currently running into the exact same issue.

We have a 2 connector data point, but the tags can only read out one circuit number at a time.

The second will be ignored, is there any workaround for this?

Re: Electrical Secondary Connector Parameter

fabiosato — Tue, 29 Aug 2023 11:57:44 GMT

Hello,

Nest a shared family with the secondary electrical connector.