topic Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture in Revit MEP Forum

Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

coleLHPZ3 — Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:56:19 GMT

Hello everyone I am trying to see if there is a way to tag the elevation of a hosted element, besides just using text. I Know that this has been a problem since 2012 but I was wondering if anyone has come up with a solution in the last 3 or so years? Thanks

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 18:07:00 GMT

do you mean like the image attached?

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

coleLHPZ3 — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 18:15:16 GMT

No what I am trying to accomplish is being able to tag a hosted fixture that does not have a parameter for its mounting height, because it is a hosted element,in a view not an elevation view. Right now I have to use text and if that fixture moves for any reason then the text height that I put in is now wrong, so I would like to try to find something that can work with the device so when it moves and the elevation changes so does the tag.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 18:23:02 GMT

so here is a revit file that has a light fixture (wall mounted) on a wall. It has an elevation parameter for the height. I linked this into a new revit file (structural) and used the Spot Elevation command to get the elevation at various points. See images 1 and 2.

After moving the light fixture in the linked revit file, I opened the structural model and the elevation tags updated properly...see image 3

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dtiemeyer — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:37:12 GMT

I think he wants the elevation tag to display in 'plan' view. We do the same thing for 'counter height and above' receptacles. A bit of text that says 48"AFF or 72"AFF, something like that where the 48 or 72 is the 'Elevation' value after the object has been inserted. I'd love an answer to this as well.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

coleLHPZ3 — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:41:30 GMT

Yes that si exactly what I am looking for. Using the 48" or 72" AFF is okay but it is a lot more time consuming.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:44:32 GMT

like this?

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dtiemeyer — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:48:49 GMT

yes. Is that using a 'Fixture' tag or an elevation tag?

how did you 'snap' to that (in other words, what value did it read? Top, center, bottom, insertion point?)

Cheers,

Dustin

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:49:01 GMT

the solution is to create a shared parameter for the elevation parameter of the light fixture. Once done, create a custom light fixture tag with a label that uses the custom shared parameter you just made. After making the custom annotation, load it into your project and tag away.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:49:46 GMT

i used the light fixture tag.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:50:17 GMT

see shared parameter file I made...

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

coleLHPZ3 — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:51:11 GMT

Is this fixture a hosted element?

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dtiemeyer — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:51:23 GMT

But that will only allow you to manually fill in what you want the tag to read, it's not linked to the actual Elevation value, is it?

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:52:40 GMT

this custom annotation is reporting the elevation parameter...I am not manually typing in the height.

the light fixture is a face based/hosted light fixture.

this method works regardless if the family is a hosted or non-hosted family.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

coleLHPZ3 — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:57:17 GMT

What about for a ceiling mounted fixture. Will this method work if I had a receptacle that is hosted to a ceiling and we want to show how the height of that device and if it changes without typing in a text box with the height.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:02:29 GMT

it should

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dtiemeyer — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:05:04 GMT

would you please either post the Revit file, or a screen capture of how you have linked this shared parameter to the 'Elevation' field of a light fixture? Ive used your family, and it doesnt work on my end. Thank you.

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dzanta — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:07:31 GMT

1. open the light fixture family

2. open the family types window

3. find the elevation parameter, choose edit

4. change it from a family parameter to a shared parameter

5. choose the shared parameter text file I sent to you earlier

6. the shared parameter file will list all the shared parameters I made...one will say elevation..select it

7. click OK to finish the modification of the light fixture family

8. load the newly modified family into your project and tag away

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

coleLHPZ3 — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:07:34 GMT

I believe it should as well. My only concern is that I will not be able to add in shared parameter to pick up the elevation or mounting height of a hosted ceiling fixture because of the way that you have to build the family?

Re: Tagging the Elevation of a Hosted Fixture

dtiemeyer — Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:20:36 GMT

'Default Elevation' is not allowed to be edited into a 'Shared Parameter' because it is a Built-in Parameter