topic Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line in Revit MEP Forum

HELP. Pipe Break Line

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 14:13:39 GMT

Okay, short and sweet,

Can anyone find or make a family for Revit '14, a Pipe Break Line that would work like the one in AutoCAD?

With that being said we just are looking to be able to insert it in the same way but be able to edit the line weights with the differant pipes.

Thanks so much for any help.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:20:14 GMT

Like this one?

It's included with 2014. You have to browse to Libraries > US Imperial > Detail Items > Div 01-General.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:23:25 GMT

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture/pipe-break-line-question-help-or-comment-appreciated/m-p/6400904#M120121

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:09:59 GMT

Like this?? Attached family is 2014.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 21:55:59 GMT

Hi Matt, I downloaded your pipe break family, but for some reason the masking is not working. Is there a VG setting that needs to be adjusted?

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:03:45 GMT

Visual style need to be on Hidden Line I guess

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:21:56 GMT

@Anonymous Yes, the visual style must be set to Hidden for it display correctly. Glad you figured it out!

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:27:47 GMT

Thank you Matt.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

rbarbosa8DQGJ — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:05:47 GMT

I have two tubes, one is over the other one. I need to break the one over to show that below, using the pipe break simbol, but no spliting the model. How can I do it?

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

fabiosato — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:24:39 GMT

Hello,

Unfortunatelly there is no tool for this feature, only manual drawing.

You can create a Revit idea requesting it.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:31:35 GMT

I posted this workaround on a similar thread / question yesterday...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/pipe-break-line-question-help-or-comment-appreciated/m-p/9601328#M288028

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

rbarbosa8DQGJ — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:05:35 GMT

Please, vote for this. https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/pipe-break-to-show-stacked-pipes/idi-p/9604162

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

rbarbosa8DQGJ — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:05:55 GMT

Please, vote for this. https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/pipe-break-to-show-stacked-pipes/idi-p/9604162

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

iainsavage — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:07:57 GMT

I know you said no splitting, but you could maybe modify a union family to only have a wavy line symbol visible, split one pipe in two places and then hide in view the piece in between?

Pipes would still be connected, just not visible in certain views.

You could filter the modified union out of any schedules or take-offs to avoid inaccuracies in quantities of fittings.

Haven’t tested this but it might work and I do have a cap family made like this to cap off pipes sometimes and it just displays a wavy line.

Hope this might help

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:29:53 GMT

A better solution would probably be....

Add a section across stacked pipes
Tag pipes in the section view
Place section view on sheet
Go about your day.... 😀

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

RobDraw — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:17:44 GMT

I've been saying the same thing every time these kinds of questions come up. Sections, isometrics, 3D views are all viable and easy to do (well, isometrics, not so much) but there seems to be a reluctance to adapt.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:20:49 GMT

"But this is the way we've always done things."

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

iainsavage — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:25:02 GMT

I agree but my suggested workaround was in response to @rbarbosa8DQGJ looking for a way to show the pipes in plan.

For any who don't know this (I only discovered it myself recently) 3D or isometric "call-outs" can be quickly created using the Selection Box tool as attached (duplicate the 3D view in order to save it otherwise it will be overwritten the next time you use the tool). Lock the view orientation and then it can be annotated.

Hope this helps.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

rbarbosa8DQGJ — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:46:29 GMT

Sometimes, it is the way the client want to receive. They like the old way, the way of Autocad. "Client is the king", do you remember?

The question we made is only to learn a new way to do things that worked every time.

Every time we need to use a new software, we need to reinvent the wheel to adapt to the new software. The right thing shold be the software reproduce consolidated practices, the software should adapt to make existing process better, to make that easy and fast (this is how they sell the new softwares), but what we really get is a serious of clicks and commands to do something that was easy in a hard and poor way. And always we bump to someone's idea to change things that were perfect.

Re: HELP. Pipe Break Line

Matt__W — Tue, 30 Jun 2020 13:00:53 GMT

@rbarbosa8DQGJ wrote:

They like the old way, the way of Autocad. "Client is the king"...

The client isn't always right nor do they always know what's best especially when it comes to new software, new workflows, new "best practices", or how to use it. They aren't the "experts" when it comes to using the design software and so they need to be educated when it comes to things like this. In my experience, 99.9% of the time they don't care as long as you've made them aware of some of the limitations. What they really care about is. whether the construction documents are accurate and that they don't have to pay for any mistakes or re-work due to a bad design, and they CERTAINLY ARE NOT going to pay for anyone to create a custom family just to show pipes above/below.

@rbarbosa8DQGJ wrote:
The question we made is only to learn a new way to do things that worked every time.

I have nothing against learning new workflows, processes, or trying new ideas. This is how you become better and more efficient.

@rbarbosa8DQGJ wrote:

Every time we need to use a new software, we need to reinvent the wheel to adapt to the new software.

Using new software shouldn't mean you reinvent the wheel. If that's the case then stick with your existing software. This sounds an awful lot like the "this is the way we've always done things" comment.

@rbarbosa8DQGJ wrote:

The right thing shold be the software reproduce consolidated practices, the software should adapt to make existing process better, to make that easy and fast (this is how they sell the new softwares),

And this is exactly what you get if you use the section tools.... a better, faster and easier process to show (in this case) pipes above/below one another.