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Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:39:14 GMT

I had to edit an electrical element and put an usb charger, and the final looked like this

But then when I checked it in a Section, the newly usb charger just didn´t show up.

Any ideas on fixing this?

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

AE_RevoBIM — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:37:51 GMT

Check the "Family Element Visibility Settings" in the family of the USB element. Make sure its set to visible in section, or check if any of those settings are turned off. (Image attached)

Also check if the element is set to "Visible" in the properties.

Does it show in a 3D view within the model?

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:17:56 GMT

Yes, it is all turned on, but I just checked it in the 3D model, and it looks like this

I have no clue why, since it is all correct when I edit the family

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

iainsavage — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:26:15 GMT

Upload the family please

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

AE_RevoBIM — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:38:07 GMT

Is the USB element a nested family? Can you go into that and check its Family Element Visibility Settings then reload into host family.

Something else to check, in the host model, goto a 3D or section where you can see the USB element and set the "Preview Visibility On" on the bottom left (See image). This previews the family settings. If it disappears then you will be able to troubleshoot inside the family editor

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

iainsavage — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:35:27 GMT

Upload the family for examination, it will save a lot of back-and-forth guessing.

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:37:16 GMT

Here is the family, I think the USB is not part of the host

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:38:39 GMT

I now think it is a problem within the family itself, rather than a visibility one

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

iainsavage — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:52:21 GMT

This is what I see in section in Fine detail mode

3D in Fine detail:

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:04 GMT

Yes, but when I see it in a section, or in 3D in project, inside a room for example, it seems like the USB is not connected to the electrical host. Try to put this family inside a project and check it

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

iainsavage — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:58:42 GMT

Here is your USB in your screenshot???:

It looks like the nested family is not constrained properly to move with the main family.

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

iainsavage — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:02:42 GMT

You need to add another reference plane, lock the USB sub-family to that plane and then give it an offset dimension from the plane which is controlled by the Alturo do Ponto parameter

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:27:59 GMT

I don´t get it. When I try to edit the family, it is already "fixed"

But it is still out of place

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

fabiosato — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 01:08:57 GMT

Hello,

The USB module was not inserted using the proper reference plane, which should be "baixo".

The family below is ok now.

Re: Trouble with electrical elements model

antonio_roquette — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 10:29:45 GMT

Thank you!