topic Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging in Revit MEP Forum

Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:20:53 GMT

Hi,

I want to be able to tag a wire such that it will show the size of the wires/conductors. Currently, I have this tag:

But I want it in this format:

Next, I'd like my circuit tag to also show the breaker size/poles. Currently, I have this tag:

And would like to format it like this:

Thanks in advance,

-P

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:41:36 GMT

Are these tags you have created or default tags?

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

kadmonkee — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 18:08:53 GMT

open the tag family that you want to modify.

select a label to modify

confirm how you wish to have the label display organize the label parameters and provide a separator either Prefix or Suffix.

be sure to stretch the text box so it fills one line.

see image below.

next open the circuit tag and add the shared parameter you want to include breaker size / pole etc.

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:02:00 GMT

Have you had any luck in getting the tags you created to display the way you want? I am trying to do the same thing in Revit 2017. I can't quite get what you even started with. Would you be willing to share the annotation families you have created? I haven't found any on-line yet. Just questions similar to what you were asking.

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:11:56 GMT

I haven't as of yet, but here's what I use. I've been slammed for a while and haven't had time to revisit it yet...

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:31:54 GMT

I'll take a look at your family. I'll work with it to see if I can get it to display what we both are looking for.

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:01:41 GMT

Patsit,

I've tried several different things. Failed on all. Plus, Revit determines the wire size based on the OCPD instead of the MCA or WSA. And it also appears that the formula is flawed in the voltage drop calc as well. Again, can't access the formula to make corrections. It would appear that to get it to do what we would like it to do the base Revit formula needs edited (which I haven't been able to get to) and the wire size parameter needs to be editable (which I haven't been able to figure out how to do, if it can be modified to be editable). And it would appear that there is no parameter created for sizing the conduits either. This is needed to be able to include it with the wire size parameter in your wire size family.

I haven't advanced enough in Revit to be creating parameter formulas nor do I have the time presently. Maybe down the road I'll have some time to dig into this issue more. If I come up with anything, I'll be sure to share with you.

Warren

Re: Modifying Wire and Circuit Tagging

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:11:30 GMT

Never, ever, ever, ever trust Revit's native wire, conduit, and voltage drop calculated values. They're all over the place. If you're on the design side, I recommend not even bothering showing the homeruns and just tagging the devices with the associated circuit number(s). If you're on the construction side, model your conduit runs and create shared parameters for the number and size of wires/circuits in each pipe.