topic Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another in Revit MEP Forum

How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:55:38 GMT

I have two circuits (circuits 1 and circuit 2). Both feed from the same panel (panel H). Each circuit feeds receptacles, 6 receptacles each. If I go to move one (1) receptacle from circuit 1 to circuit 2, it wants to move all 6. Is there a way to move just one receptacle? I would like circuit 1 to have 5 and circuit 2 to have 7 receptacles. I have even removed the receptacle in question from the panel and Circuit System so that it is blank in the Properties of the receptacle, yet when I add it back into the other circuit, it wants to bring with all of the other receptacles that it was originally associated with. The Waring is "You have selected elements that are already part of other Circuits. They will be removed from the original Circuits and added to this one." Even though none of the parts highlighted are part of another circuit.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

bmaldonado6X2W5 — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 14:18:13 GMT

Hi rkernPBQSM

There are two ways that Revit will retain circuit association.

First is the obvious, the receptacle you are trying to move is part of another circuit system.
Second is the receptacle you are trying to move may not be part of the circuit system but it is connected via electrical wires. Revit will still associate them if they are connected via wire so make sure that in all your views the receptacle you are trying to move is not connected via wires

Once you do that you can highlight the receptacle you want to move. Right click on the electrical connector, select "remove from circuit".

Then highlight again, right click electrical connector, select "add to circuit" then select the circuit you want.

Let me know if that worked for you.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:41:45 GMT

I think we are missing a step or something.

See screen shot #1. You can see CKT 16 has some Duplex Receptacles, and no wires. I have removed all of the wires from CKT 16.

See screen shot #2. There is an outlet that we would like to be on a different CKT the outlet has been removed from any panel, CKT or power system. It was part of CKT 16, but is no longer as can be seen in the Panel and Circuit Number fields, as they are blank.

See screen shot #3. We created a power CKT for the "blank" outlet. Revit assigns CKT 22 in this case when we connected it to panel H.

See screen shot #4 & 5 (attached to next post). We now want to edit the new power CKT 22, and add another outlet. But when you go to add the other blank not attached to any panel/CKT outlet, it wants to pull in all of the old CKT 16.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:41:03 GMT

Screens 4 and 5

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:44:36 GMT

When Revit says "Warning you have selected elements that are already part of other Circuits. They will be removed from the original and added to this one." And then Revit highlights in Orange the other Circuits/outlets. These were not even clicked on, so we don't understand how they are getting picked up by Revit to get merged into the CKT you are trying to edit.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

s.borello — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:03:04 GMT

Tab select your circuit... up on the ribbon you will see a modify/electrical circuit tab. Select edit circuit, you will then be able to add or remove devices from the circuit, hit finish editing circuit when complete and you're good to go. See screenshots below.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

bmaldonado6X2W5 — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:55:00 GMT

So the receptacle near the corner is the one you want to move from the circuit on the left to the other receptacles going south on the wall correct?

If you are trying to move it to an already established circuit #2 then you don't have to create the power circuit you show on screen shot #3. You should go to circuit #2, edit that circuit, select add to circuit and pick the receptacle that you want.
Have you tried just deleting the receptacle all together and re-inserting a new one?

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:57:52 GMT

"Tab select your circuit... up on the ribbon you will see a modify/electrical circuit tab. Select edit circuit, you will then be able to add or remove devices from the circuit, hit finish editing circuit when complete and you're good to go."

Thank you for the suggestion, yes what you have proposed is our standard approach. We use the add or remove devices. But even when a device is removed it is not working. See my pervious posts and screen shots, if you follow along with the attachments, and you can see where Revit is trying to add in other CKTs, why? See attached video for what Revit is doing.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 18:45:04 GMT

Please see the video, but yes tried that. And yes deleting receptacles and then adding in a new works fine. But ideally you could just select a single, existing, formally connected to another circuit, receptacle and it would just move to the new circuit. But that is not the case (all the time). Seams like a bug/issue with formally connected outlets.

Did get it to work eventually, buy deleting like you suggested. Please see the video for details of it NOT working like you would expect.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

bmaldonado6X2W5 — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:44:56 GMT

Yes, ideally it should work like that. I definitely have had this issue happen to me before with light fixtures but at that time it the designer had used wires incorrectly and even though it wasn’t in the same circuit revit still associated them together because of the wire.

If you could take a portion of the model and post it we could investigate it further.

At least when you run into that you can just delete and create a new instance.

Re: How to change a receptacle from one circuit to another

rkernPBQSM — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:29:35 GMT

Thank you, we will just delete and re-place the devices with issues.