topic Re: Quazite Box dimensions in Revit MEP Forum

Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:18:22 GMT

I need to place a number of quazite boxes and that will be an issue for the future frequently. I am a Real Newby to Revit and I am struggling with getting a rfa set up so that I can change dimensions as needed and can't even find the right family where to place it. I would think it belongs to the Electrical Equipment family but there I can't add the parameter for the depth. That piece I downloaded has only length and width.

Unfortunately, I could not find a manufacturer who has rfa files for their quazite boxes. Maybe a different name is used in Revit for these things?

Many thanks for your help, I am desperate to get that solved.

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

L.Maas — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 08:38:40 GMT

They are often called junction boxes or terminal boxes. You might look for those. You also could look at sites like bimobject.com. Those sites have lots of content from different manufacturers

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:26:01 GMT

Thanks a lot for the advice. I will definitely check those junction boxes again. What I saw so far yet was that they are all more or less steel boxes for passing through wires, mounted above ground. The boxes I am talking about are buried in-ground, made from concrete and open at the bottom. See the attached link.

https://www.hubbell.com/hubbellpowersystems/en/Products/Power-Utilities/Enclosures---Below-Ground/Boxes/Straight-Wall/c/561077?text=&style=list&pageSize=30&sort=PLPSequence-asc&q=%3APLPSequence-asc%3AbrandFacet%3AQUAZ

Many thanks again and have a great day

Harald

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

RSomppi — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:39:49 GMT

Have you tried contacting Hubbell? They have 3D drawings. I couldn't find any for these boxes with a quick search but that doesn't mean they don't have them.

For help with your family, upload it.

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:51:41 GMT

they don't seem to have rfa files. Only AutoCAD.

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

RSomppi — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:46:37 GMT

You can use the .dwgs and spec sheets as references for your family.

Also, keep in mind that not all companies make their families available for on demand downloads. Some require an account or only provide them on request. Contact them. They might be helpful in this aspect.

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:51:06 GMT

"You can use the .dwgs and spec sheets as references for your family."
Many thanks for the advice. As I mentioned, I am a real newbie and I have no idea how to use a DWG file in Revit. Is there instruction and if so, where can I find it?

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 14:13:05 GMT

I did actually call the manufacturer Hubble and they said they don't have any rfa files, only CAD

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 14:14:09 GMT

It's Revit 2022

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

sragan — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 14:39:10 GMT

This video is in a series of videos for Revit Electrical Designers. It will show you exactly how to make a family that has adjustable depth, width, and height:

Revit for Electrical Design Professional Certification Prep - Understand family creation workflow | Autodesk

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

hzieger — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 23:16:16 GMT

Great! Tanks for the link. It did help really. I started the curse and I am at section 4. For what reason ever, the dimension parameter I added "depth" is now part of the family, but the value stays at 1" no matter what I do?

Re: Quazite Box dimensions

stever66 — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 03:22:24 GMT

You may have missed a step. Or you may have locked the depth at 1’ instead of locking the box geometry to the reference planes. Try selecting the depth dimension in the family editor and seeing if there is a lock symbol you can unlock.

if that doesn’t help, try starting over and following the video again. It shouldn’t take more than 5 min.

Also, they don’t mention it in the video, but any of these dimensions can be connected to either a “type” parameter, or a “instance” parameter. With instance parameters, you can individually adjust the dimensions for every box you place. Flexible, but it can also be a pain if you need to place a lot of them.

With the type parameters, you make a different family type for each size box you want available. Then each time you place a box, you just pick the type that is the right size. This works well because there are probably only 5 or 6 sizes you will use most of the time. And if you do happen to need an odd size, it’s easy to create a new type on the fly.

if that’s confusing, just google Revit type vs instance parameters or search YouTube.