topic New visibility parameters off by default? in Revit MEP Forum

New visibility parameters off by default?

jason.bowman — Fri, 13 May 2022 14:38:57 GMT

I have multiple family types, we're talking 20 and I have Yes/No visibility parameters on each one specified as "Type" not instance - however when I had a new visibility type, it checks all of the existing ones as visible too, I want them all to be invisible so I just just select the one I want - going through and unchecking every one each time I want to make a new one isn't time effective and the more I add the longer it gets. Marking the elements as invisible before I create the type parameter and apply it also doesn't work.

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

RobDraw — Fri, 13 May 2022 14:54:52 GMT

It's probably hard coded and not open for change.

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

jason.bowman — Fri, 13 May 2022 14:57:51 GMT

Ridiculous if it is

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

RobDraw — Fri, 13 May 2022 15:12:25 GMT

In this forum, it is the way it is.

You can express your disdain in Product Feedback or make a suggestion in the IDEAS forum.

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

RLY_15 — Fri, 13 May 2022 16:36:03 GMT

Option 1 - when you make the new parameter, set the value to false in the formula field so that it applies to all Types, then remove the formula.

Option 2 -

Each type you create a Type that requires new visibility control, you add a Y/N parameter, assign it to the element, add the formula, and tick up the integer for that Type.

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

L.Maas — Fri, 13 May 2022 16:58:42 GMT

What I normally do is the following

-In the family editor I create the different types.

-I add visibility parameter(s).

-I add a formula 1=0 (to each visibility parameter) if I want them all off.

If you now go through the different types they are all off.

-Remove the formula and start setting them as desired.

Other option is to make use of a type catalog. I normally do this when I have more than 5 types.

You can prepare the type catalog in other software (e.g. Excel) and then use that software copy/paste (or formulas) functions.

With this method I have made families of more than 100 types.

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

iainsavage — Fri, 13 May 2022 17:41:28 GMT

If you have 20+ types in one family, I would recommend using a type catalogue or lookup table and you can pre-populate the yes/no parameter values with 0 or 1.

Its far easier to manage changes in an external txt/csv file than scrolling through so many types in the family editor.

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

jason.bowman — Wed, 18 May 2022 08:44:30 GMT

For context, this isn't a pipe fitting family, its an annotation family that contains different types to detail different pipe support arrangements on our drawing sheets - so the families are built up of lines and text so not sure if I can use a catalog for it?

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

jason.bowman — Wed, 18 May 2022 11:58:10 GMT

The method of =1=10 works for what I need - hopefully they add the ability to do this quicker in a later version.

Thanks for the help!

Re: New visibility parameters off by default?

EAydinMVSM4 — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 16:45:20 GMT

i had the same question and just came across a potential solution. If you duplicate another visibility parameter that's turned off, it remains off through ALL the types. It's a lot quicker to turn it on for specific types, than to turn it off through all.