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    <title>topic Re: Can't rotate a family that I created in Revit Architecture Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Family by default cannot rotate in z direction. So you have to set it to work-plane base&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="syman2000_0-1636388354512.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987117i07BFBE9146606134/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="syman2000_0-1636388354512.png" alt="syman2000_0-1636388354512.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the project you create a reference plane and give it a name&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="syman2000_1-1636388429963.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987118iE52C3CD29489E4A1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="syman2000_1-1636388429963.png" alt="syman2000_1-1636388429963.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Host the family on the reference plane and you can rotate it by rotating reference plane.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="syman2000_2-1636388515366.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987121iED518049B96F3EC7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="syman2000_2-1636388515366.png" alt="syman2000_2-1636388515366.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:22:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>syman2000</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-11-08T16:22:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10741936#M96276</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, I created a family recently and then I loaded it into another project. I am unable to rotate it in the project.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any solutions ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 07:24:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>talha_ozdemir</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T07:24:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10742127#M96277</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11607385"&gt;@talha_ozdemir&lt;/a&gt; ,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the Forums, I see you're using Revit 2022 and you're facing this issue on a custom Familie you developed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Could you kindly elaborate on this, so that other users can point to in the right direction/ or explain probable causes?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. What kind of Family is this? maybe the template has certain restrictions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Is it possible to post the family here so others can take a look at it?&lt;BR /&gt;3. From the looks of it, I assume it's a metal profile? What is your requirement like? Does it need to look like this in Detail as well as 3D or can it be simplified to just a rectangular profile in geometry? (May save you relative family file size).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A little more description would be very helpful to narrowing it down or finding a better workaround.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers, K&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 08:56:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>indiana_j0nes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T08:56:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10742267#M96278</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello again, the family template is generic model. And I am also&lt;BR /&gt;uploading the family, it is very simple family profile for the window panels.&lt;BR /&gt;I created this family and uploaded to the host family, I am also uploading an image&lt;BR /&gt;so you can take a closer look.I constrained family to the bottom of the panel, and I also&lt;BR /&gt;need to constrain a copy of it to the top part, but before doing that I need to rotate the family. It&lt;BR /&gt;should be just a simple task, but it wont let me rotate.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 10:32:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10742267#M96278</guid>
      <dc:creator>talha_ozdemir</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T10:32:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743012#M96279</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If this family was supposed to be used in different orientations, you should have planned for that, either making the family face-based or making two versions of the family, one for each orientation. The face-based would have been the easiest solution. The second solution is not difficult either.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Another solution, more involved, is to make this family work-plan based and use another intermediate family (after this one and before the host) to create a rotation parameter.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:15:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743012#M96279</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T16:15:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743027#M96280</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Family by default cannot rotate in z direction. So you have to set it to work-plane base&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="syman2000_0-1636388354512.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987117i07BFBE9146606134/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="syman2000_0-1636388354512.png" alt="syman2000_0-1636388354512.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the project you create a reference plane and give it a name&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="syman2000_1-1636388429963.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987118iE52C3CD29489E4A1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="syman2000_1-1636388429963.png" alt="syman2000_1-1636388429963.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Host the family on the reference plane and you can rotate it by rotating reference plane.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="syman2000_2-1636388515366.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987121iED518049B96F3EC7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="syman2000_2-1636388515366.png" alt="syman2000_2-1636388515366.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:22:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743027#M96280</guid>
      <dc:creator>syman2000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T16:22:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743044#M96281</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are you saying that you want to rotate this family in a Host Family, as if it were hinged on one side?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="DoorFrame0.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987126i294D629E626B33BC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="DoorFrame0.png" alt="DoorFrame0.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="DoorFrame1.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987129i7B0A13DA0E3ED33E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="DoorFrame1.png" alt="DoorFrame1.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="DoorFrame2.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987130i71D9C7D092A9831C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="DoorFrame2.png" alt="DoorFrame2.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;....if so, make the nested Family a Work Plane-Based Family and then place it on a Ref. Line Work Plane in the Host.&amp;nbsp; Control the Rotation Angle of the Ref. Line via a labeled dimension in the Host.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:32:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743044#M96281</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T16:32:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/10743419#M96282</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I take that you need to use the same component for base and head of a panel.&amp;nbsp; If so, tick Workplane box in the family as you have been advised then you can host it on the base and top reference planes, without having to rotate anything.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ToanDN_2-1636399491290.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987195i49DB1E6DFA8F2586/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ToanDN_2-1636399491290.png" alt="ToanDN_2-1636399491290.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ToanDN_1-1636399474036.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/987194i4E538F105A478823/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ToanDN_1-1636399474036.png" alt="ToanDN_1-1636399474036.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/5a792ec8-f411-4fc3-9f81-06684dac8b57" target="_blank"&gt;https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/5a792ec8-f411-4fc3-9f81-06684dac8b57&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 19:25:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-08T19:25:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/13619668#M96283</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;its still one of the most frustrating aspects of revit, just want to be able to simply rotate a family but no&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 08:44:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sagnewYUXLR</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-08T08:44:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/13690935#M357577</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Revit 2018 de aileyi "Mechanical Equipment" olarak kaydettiğimde her eksende döndürebiliyordum. Revit 2025 kullanıyorum ve bu değişmiş, artık dönmüyor. Bu neden değişti acaba?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 13:35:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>serkan_dizdarMUNW4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-20T13:35:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/can-t-rotate-a-family-that-i-created/m-p/13690957#M357579</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i think when creating the family you have to have "always vertical" ticked&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="sagnewYUXLR_0-1750427099776.png" style="width: 253px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1545227i4A756124203CAD3C/image-dimensions/253x245?v=v2" width="253" height="245" role="button" title="sagnewYUXLR_0-1750427099776.png" alt="sagnewYUXLR_0-1750427099776.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;simple filter i created&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;can be rotated&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="sagnewYUXLR_1-1750427173659.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1545228i116DA53BC6B69C99/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="sagnewYUXLR_1-1750427173659.png" alt="sagnewYUXLR_1-1750427173659.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 13:46:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sagnewYUXLR</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-20T13:46:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;All of the families that I make and use can be rotated all day long. Been doing it since day one. If you start a thread and ask for help, someone will help you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 15:29:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RSomppi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-20T15:29:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Can't rotate a family that I created</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;yeah i',m all good now thanks was more in response to the person who was struggling since switching versions&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 15:32:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sagnewYUXLR</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-20T15:32:05Z</dc:date>
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