topic Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display in Revit Architecture Forum

Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

BigPicture045 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:05:21 GMT

I am having issues with the Clapboard wall material as seen in the image below. The primary facade of the house is vinyl. Please see the material below. I would like for the material to be white in hidden line, but be the shaded color it is now.

The issue I am having is that in order to display the shaded color in shaded mode, it changes the color in hiddle line mode as well.

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

ToanDN — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:10:59 GMT

Set the material:

No color or white solid color with lines for surface model pattern under Graphics tab
Actual color for Shading under Graphics tab
Texture under Appearance tab

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

RDAOU — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:44:16 GMT

@BigPicture045

If you want it white, WHY are you giving it a colored Shading and a Colored background Solid surface pattern??!!

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

lucdoucet_msdl — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:23:00 GMT

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Are you sure you are in a hidden line view for the building elevations? Try setting it to shaded then back to hidden line. I suspect it is set to solid colors as everything in the 3d view is grey which becomes white in a solid color view.

It seems the only way to have solid background colors appear in a hidden line view is to apply a graphic override to the element, the category or through a filter.

-luc

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

ToanDN — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:42:57 GMT

@lucdoucet_msdl wrote:

@BigPicture045

Please see the material below. I would like for the material to be white in hidden line, but be the shaded color it is now.

Revit does not have a separate materials setting for the graphic representation between a hidden line view and a shaded view. You can understand it this way: A hidden line view is a colored view, and Shaded view is a Hidden Line view with Shading modifying the tone of the colors.

In order for you to force the hidden line view to not show colors, you will need to create a visibility override that replaces the color of the background solid fill. This can by element, by category or by way of a filter (all these in the hidden line view).

So most straightforward (by element);

In the hidden line view, right click an clapboard wall and select all instances in the view.

With all of them selected, right click again and Override graphics by element;

Check the color box for the background in the surface category and set it to white.

Hope this helps,

-luc

Why a bunch of extra work when he can just remove the solid pattern from the background of the material surface pattern?

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

ToanDN — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:27:48 GMT

@lucdoucet_msdl wrote:

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Are you sure you are in a hidden line view for the building elevations? Try setting it to shaded then back to hidden line. I suspect it is set to solid colors as everything in the 3d view is grey which becomes white in a solid color view.

It seems the only way to have solid background colors appear in a hidden line view is to apply a graphic override to the element, the category or through a filter.

-luc

Luc - 3D hidden lines views will show a material with solid color with the exact setup in OP screenshot. We do it on daily basis, showing everything without colors except for glass materials as light blue in 3D hidden lines views..

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

lucdoucet_msdl — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:30:43 GMT

@ToanDN

Because he wants it in color in the 3d view as a shaded view.

"I would like for the material to be white in hidden line, but be the shaded color it is now"

I noticed this afterwards and changed my reply.

-luc

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

BigPicture045 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:34:58 GMT

I have the color set under the shading. However, in the shaded view, it is displaying white. See image below. @RDAOU

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

ToanDN — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:41:50 GMT

@BigPicture045 Remove the solid pattern for the background.

@lucdoucet_msdl I read that he wants Hidden Lines views show the material without a color and Shaded views show the material with a color. Guess we will wait until @BigPicture045 can clarify what he really wants.

Re: Hidden Line Vs Shaded Display

BigPicture045 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:44:22 GMT

Bingo. Thanks @ToanDN