topic Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces in Revit Architecture Forum

Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 06:04:31 GMT

Hi There,

I am trying to use templates to create floor finishes drawings, where I have filters applied to give colour to modelled floors. It works rather well until you work on staged projects, where it is prudent to hatch over previous stages, or existing areas not in the scope of works (standard to use a grey solid colour hatch). It seems that any colour overrides applied to modelled elements do not respect the filled region overtop, and show through. I have also tried applying a colour to the material as opposed to a filter override, to see if it was a hierarchy issue, to no avail. Any solutions? It seems silly that it doesn't work, especially since 2D element linework generally sit in front of any 3D modelled elements by default.

Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

ToanDN — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:42:51 GMT

Isn't it because your filled regions are to Transparent? Set the filled region type to Mask.

Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

barthbradley — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 19:55:59 GMT

Is "Masking" checked or unchecked under the Fill Region Type Properties?

What about Draw Order? Have you experimented with Send to Front/Back?

Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

lucdoucet_msdl — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 21:31:09 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Hi There,
I am trying to use templates to create floor finishes drawings, where I have filters applied to give colour to modelled floors. It works rather well until you work on staged projects, where it is prudent to hatch over previous stages, or existing areas not in the scope of works (standard to use a grey solid colour hatch). It seems that any colour overrides applied to modelled elements do not respect the filled region overtop, and show through. I have also tried applying a colour to the material as opposed to a filter override, to see if it was a hierarchy issue, to no avail. Any solutions? It seems silly that it doesn't work, especially since 2D element linework generally sit in front of any 3D modelled elements by default.

By "stages", I am assuming your are referring to Revit Phases. Also that your 2d filled regions are "non masking" because you would want to see the linework of the 3d elements beneath this grey "existing" zone.

Change the floor finish color overrides to include a transparency and the filled region will override the color completely.

Hope this helps,

-luc

P.S. Added the before changing transparency to the filter. Is this what you are seeing, ie the grey region not masking the color override?

Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 22:40:58 GMT

Yes, and that is so that an overall filled region can be placed on a floor plan of out of scope/existing areas, without masking the detail of the floor plan beneath it.

Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

ToanDN — Mon, 15 Nov 2021 23:13:04 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and that is so that an overall filled region can be placed on a floor plan of out of scope/existing areas, without masking the detail of the floor plan beneath it.

Got cha. I usually create Room or Area Color Scheme to show the existing/not in scope Rooms/Areas by their parameter.

Re: Filled region over coloured modelled surfaces

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:19:54 GMT

Hi All, I have resolved this, but only from 2022 onwards. Requires a rule based phase filter to floors, and then turning off the surface patterns of any floor on that phase.