topic Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families in Revit Architecture Forum

Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

HaiderAlghifary — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 19:41:28 GMT

It's a great feature, that lets you rotate the Spot Coordinate tag by checking the Rotate with Component checkbox under the type properties.

It works on Model Lines, walls, etc.

But as soon as you put in a family, rotate it and then do a Spot Coordinate, then it won't recognize the rotation.

Am I missing something? Maybe I need to add something else into the family, for Spot Coordinate to recognize the rotation. Or, maybe it only works on certain type of families?

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

Haider_of_Sweden — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 11:36:18 GMT

A friendly bump - in case someone has anything to share.

Otherwise, this might be something to post under the Ideas forum if nothing else helps...

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

barthbradley — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 17:54:27 GMT

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2020/ENU/Revit-DocumentPresent/files/GUID-40517EB4-E02F-4597-8788-34DF9D22BEDA-htm.html

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

Haider_of_Sweden — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 18:01:54 GMT

@barthbradley wrote:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2020/ENU/Revit-DocumentPresent/files/GUID-40517EB4-E02F-4597-8788-34DF9D22BEDA-htm.html

Yes, but this doesn't work on families.

Any ideas on workarounds?

I've got a family that you can host on sloping floors and I wanted to put a Spot Coordinate on that.

The problem occurs on any families, but I attached this specific family anyway.

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

barthbradley — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 18:04:05 GMT

Line-Based Families.

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

barthbradley — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 18:25:09 GMT

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

Haider_of_Sweden — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:55:02 GMT

@barthbradley wrote:

Wonderful, @barthbradley !

I changed the category to site, but it can still not host to a toposurface, like the family I sent.

Is it because it is a line-based family or am I missing a setting somewhere?

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

RDAOU — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 13:00:15 GMT

@Haider_of_Sweden

It needs to bea line based family ... families defined by 2 points ... start and end have a direction which the spot coordinate tag can orient to. Normal families don't

Nest a line based family (shared) into your original site/entourage family to create that cross hair. This way it will host to topo and it will have the shared line base to tag with spot coordinates

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 18:18:14 GMT

@Haider_of_Sweden wrote:
I changed the category to site, but it can still not host to a toposurface, like the family I sent.

What do you mean? Yours doesn't "host" to a toposurface either.

....What about Baluster Family? Railing can be hosted to Toposurfaces.

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

Haider_of_Sweden — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:34:47 GMT

@barthbradley wrote:
What do you mean? Yours doesn't "host" to a toposurface either.
....What about Baluster Family? Railing can be hosted to Toposurfaces.

Yes, it does actually, please see the screenshot - Site-families can be hosted on toposurface.

@barthbradley & @RDAOU - I seem not to be able to nest a line based family into neither my site family or a baluster family.

However, I could nest a Detail Item Line Based family into the Site family, but it didn't really do any difference when it came to rotating the elevation.

I think I came across a trick where you would host something on a toposurface and then, host something else (in our case, the family by @barthbradley) on that something. I just cant remember what type of family it could be...

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

barthbradley — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:54:46 GMT

Are your Spot Elevations actually referencing the Measure Symbol/Family or the Toposurface? When you move a Measure Family does the Spot Elevation annotation follow along for the ride?

Re: Spot Cordinates Rotate with Component doesn't work on families

RDAOU — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:10:25 GMT

@Haider_of_Sweden

Try the attached

Use Tab over to switch direction to line orientation
It is an Entourage which hosts to site as well as floors, roofs, ...etc Passepartout

If you prefer it Site Category...edit the family and change it but I would keep it as entourage