topic Re: revit curtain wall in Revit Architecture Forum

revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:32:54 GMT

Hello,

I created custom curtain panel family. i added many material like stone, glass. After; i placed inside the curtain wall. but i didnt create material take off list include the all my material.

Why can't I get square meters depending on the material?

THAKS...

Re: revit curtain wall

syman2000 — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 12:29:52 GMT

Depends how you create curtainwall panel. You need to provide screenshot and more information.

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 14:01:49 GMT

For example; it has a 3 different material in curtain panel catogory.

And; it is a Curtain Wall.

The square meters of the 3 materials look the same. As you can see from the model, they must be in different square meters.

How can i edit?

Thanks...

Re: revit curtain wall

syman2000 — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 16:09:38 GMT

Are you using material takeoff?

When I generate schedule based on curtainwall, it is able to extract different material area

Re: revit curtain wall

barthbradley — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 18:14:57 GMT

@denizozer0633 wrote:

The square meters of the 3 materials look the same.

They all have the same Area because they all have the same Area. Length x Height = Area.

Post the File. Let us take a look at this Custom Panel so we can see what workaround is needed.

Re: revit curtain wall

ToanDN — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 18:28:14 GMT

Create Calculated value parameters in the material take-off schedule to get Area from Volume of each component in your family.

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:39:32 GMT

How can i create?

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:40:08 GMT

thank you. how can i create? it is important for me.

Re: revit curtain wall

barthbradley — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:09:29 GMT

Have you considered NOT using Curtain Wall Panels and instead using Basic Wall Types? You can replace CW Panels with Basic Walls. Did you know this? Doing so will allow you to create Parts. Parts will allow you to modify/manipulate Wall Layers - AND you can create Parts Material Takeoff Schedules.

Food for thought.

About Curtain Wall Panels | Revit LT 2017 | Autodesk Knowledge Network

About Parts | Revit 2019 | Autodesk Knowledge Network

One more for you: Wall Sweeps. Looks like you might be able to employ them in your Curtain Wall's Basic Wall Panel design as well.

Wall Sweeps | Revit | Autodesk Knowledge Network

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:11:03 GMT

Thank you. In some places there are panels that I use with glass or sun shading. Should I use both wall and curtainwall at the same time?

Re: revit curtain wall

barthbradley — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:04:20 GMT

@denizozer0633 wrote:

Thank you. In some places there are panels that I use with glass or sun shading. Should I use both wall and curtainwall at the same time?

Are you asking if you can mix panel types (Basic Walls + Curtain Wall Panels) in a Curtain Wall? Sure, you can. Should you? Sure; whatever works for you. BTW: a 1" thick Basic Wall could easily be a 1" thick System Panel. No difference in geometry -- or material.

Do you mind sharing your RVT? I might have other suggestions for you, including about Scheduling.

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:35:09 GMT

thank you so much

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:40:43 GMT

I shared my curtain panel family.

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 06:47:35 GMT

@barthbradley i shared

Re: revit curtain wall

barthbradley — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:17:02 GMT

I’m a little confused. Are you trying to use an MTO to report the total surface areas of all the cladding? If so, why?

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:49:02 GMT

ı dont know another solution. how can i create this panel? should i use different basic wall type ? I need to all part seperate detail material schedule (m2-SF).

Re: revit curtain wall

barthbradley — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:04:58 GMT

You might be able to get there by nesting together the components of the Curtain Panel - effectively assembling the Curtain Panel with fabricated parts inside the family.

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Mon, 10 Jan 2022 04:33:50 GMT

Thank you @barthbradley .Could you sent the family? Thanks

Re: revit curtain wall

denizozer0633 — Mon, 10 Jan 2022 04:54:40 GMT

Curtain panel accept just one family inside the family. how can i placed seperately. i dont understand

Re: revit curtain wall

barthbradley — Mon, 10 Jan 2022 05:30:34 GMT

It's easy to recreate. Just open your Curtain Panel Family and Clipboard Cut each Component/Material in the Family and Paste it - Aligned to Current View - into a Plan View of a Generic Model Family. One Generic Model Family per Component/Material. Check "Shared" in all the Families. When you have cut out and made Families of all the Components/Materials, Nest each one of them back into Curtain Wall Panel Family - origin to origin (e.g. insertion point is where the x,y, Origin Ref. Planes intersect). Now reload the Curtain Panel Family into the Project and you use it in your Project's Curtain Wall - just as you did before. Get it?

2022 attached.

NOTE: My components are not parametric. That's where the real work lies. That ball is in your court. Have fun.