topic Re: no walls for roof plan in Revit Architecture Forum

no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 19:28:00 GMT

I am new to REVIT, very experienced in Autocad. I have spent 3 hours trying to view any walls on a roof plan. I have read the posts, I have set the view template to none so I could vary the view range, tried every variation. There is nothing to view on the roof layer but one line that reads 'import symbol.' Any new ideas would be appreciated.

Re: no walls for roof plan

ToanDN — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 19:30:23 GMT

@joyquilt1021 wrote:

I am new to REVIT, very experienced in Autocad. I have spent 3 hours trying to view any walls on a roof plan. I have read the posts, I have set the view template to none so I could vary the view range, tried every variation. There is nothing to view on the roof layer but one line that reads 'import symbol.' Any new ideas would be appreciated.

What variations? Try bottom of view range = Unlimited?

Cut a section to understand your wall heights related to levels.

Re: no walls for roof plan

barthbradley — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 19:45:28 GMT

Depends on how you created the "Roof Plan" also. What is the Associated Level?

...since you are new to Revit, I'll throw in this bonus:

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Keep it handy for reference.

Re: no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 23:54:41 GMT

What variation is confusing to me. Revit lt 2022?
I have tried the bottom of range among other options in those hours of
effort. Many different combos were unsuccessful.
I have section cuts which show walls going from floor to lower roof line.
Thank you for trying!

Re: no walls for roof plan

barthbradley — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 00:00:44 GMT

post your project here.

Re: no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 00:25:41 GMT

Please explain how to do that and which of the drawings you want to see.
Thank you!

Re: no walls for roof plan

barthbradley — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 00:31:02 GMT

Just attach your RVT to a reply post. You'll see the "Attachments" option if you scroll down below the text portion of the reply post.

Re: no walls for roof plan

ToanDN — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 00:40:14 GMT

@joyquilt1021 wrote:
What variation is confusing to me. Revit lt 2022?
I have tried the bottom of range among other options in those hours of
effort. Many different combos were unsuccessful.
I have section cuts which show walls going from floor to lower roof line.
Thank you for trying!

Let me try it again. What are the different combos? Do you have a combo with the bottom of the view range = Unlimited?

Re: no walls for roof plan

ennujozlagam — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 01:33:40 GMT

go to your roof plan view, try to activate your bulb icon, it could be hidden in the view and unhide element?

Re: no walls for roof plan

RDAOU — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:38:30 GMT

@joyquilt1021 wrote:
What variation is confusing to me. Revit lt 2022?
I have tried the bottom of range among other options in those hours of
effort. Many different combos were unsuccessful.
I have section cuts which show walls going from floor to lower roof line.
Thank you for trying!

@joyquilt1021

From what you have stated above, the Walls are obscured by the Roof element. IE: they will not show on the roof plan. Roof elements when placed, unlike floors, they place above the level obscuring all what is below

You have the following options

Detach or Extend Walls UP TO Top face of the Roof
Use the Underlay option (For the underlay to show properly, you need to set the view range Bottom and Depth to Associated Level with Offset = 0)

Use the feature Show Hidden Lines
1. Set the view Range Bottom and Depth to "Level Below"
2. Set view to wireframe
3. Go to view tab >> Show Hidden Lines
4. Select Floor/Roof Element THEN select walls
5. Set view back to hidden line

Re: no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 15:30:41 GMT

There is no roof element to be blocking.
I tried the suggestions anyway, except I cannot select the roof if there is
no roof.
Appreciate you trying.

Re: no walls for roof plan

s.borello — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 15:43:33 GMT

Post the model... you will get a solution.

Re: no walls for roof plan

RDAOU — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 15:51:41 GMT

@joyquilt1021

sorry you implied that there is ...

can you post the sections you mentioned?
Is there anything at all in this model besides the imported CAD?

Re: no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 19:53:41 GMT

Sorry I left the impression there was a roof. When I go to 'Roof' there
are no walls to draw from.
I do not know how to post drawings here.
There are only the walls, doors, windows, appliances I have loaded. Nothing
has been added but the very basics.

Re: no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 20:00:41 GMT

Sorry, don't see how to post on this site.

Re: no walls for roof plan

ToanDN — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 20:03:58 GMT

@joyquilt1021 wrote:
Sorry, don't see how to post on this site.

Re: no walls for roof plan

barthbradley — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 20:15:12 GMT

@joyquilt1021 wrote:
Sorry I left the impression there was a roof. When I go to 'Roof' there
are no walls to draw from.
I do not know how to post drawings here.
There are only the walls, doors, windows, appliances I have loaded. Nothing
has been added but the very basics.

Let's confirm. You say "There are only the walls, doors, windows, appliances I have LOADED", but have you actually PLACED instances of walls, doors, windows, appliances in 'model space'? If so, what Level did you place them on, and what is the Associated Level of your "Roof Plan". That info is in the View Properties.

...Also important, is the Phase of the Views. That's one of those 33 I sent you above.

Re: no walls for roof plan

joyquilt1021 — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 21:07:41 GMT

Answers to your questions:
I have tried the 'bulb' icon for hidden objects but it revealed nothing.
I have *placed* the items. They are showing in 3D. I placed them on
level 1
The associated level for the roof is Low Roof.
The phase is B10-Superstructure.

I tried attaching the drawing through the normal attach files link, but it
is too large to go.

Thank you so much for your patience!

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 4:04 PM Joy Carl wrote:

> Answers to your questions:
> I have tried the 'bulb' icon for hidden objects but it revealed nothing.
> I have *placed* the items. They are showing in 3D. I placed them on
> level 1
> The associated level for the roof is Low Roof.
> The phase is B10-Superstructure.
>
> Thank you so much for your patience!
>

Re: no walls for roof plan

barthbradley — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 22:00:59 GMT

Sounds like you are using the OOTB Construction Template. I'm betting money that this is Phase Related. Set your Roof View's Phase Filter to "None" and its View Range Bottom and Depth to "Unlimited" - and then Zoom to Fit. See anything?

Re: no walls for roof plan

dschleuning49PEQ — Thu, 22 Jun 2023 20:27:19 GMT

Make sure your roof lvl isnt the "top" of parapet lvl. Have two separate lvls and then create a new plan that is at the roof lvl, this should show your walls.