topic Re: Metal Roof Panel in Revit Architecture Forum

Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 06:53:28 GMT

so i am an ACAD drafter in a metal deck roof specialist contractor company but recently we have a project that require designing in Revit. I am out of idea how to make a family for this metal standing seam roof panel. so, that I can lay it on top the steel purlin panel by panel not only as a pattern surface or interface. I've try the curtain panel by pattern and curtain wall panel families but nothing seem to work.

Re: Metal Roof Panel

rxi.gg — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 11:07:18 GMT

Create a roof by footprint and select a curtain wall, edit slopes, etc...

Then create the grids of the curtain wall and the panels of your geometry

Re: Metal Roof Panel

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 13:57:39 GMT

is this screenshot of your Curtain Wall Panel Family in Revit?

If so, you'll have a number of challenges using that Panel in a Curtain Wall Type that conforms to the shape you show in this screenshot:

My suggestion is to use the SYSTEM Panel - not a custom-designed Panel. I'm betting that will solve 99% of the issues you are having now.

Re: Metal Roof Panel

ToanDN — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:46:37 GMT

Several approaches:

- Use sloped glazing roof with system panels and keep the actual panel profile for details

- Use sloped glazing roof with custom panels, but the footprint of the roof must be a rectangle so that all panels are rectangle, then use a mass with solid form to cut the panels to re-shape the roof

- Use a mass > divided surface > adaptive family + repeater or pattern based family for panels

Re: Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:15:47 GMT

i am definitely gonna use mass as it is a shell type roof. then, create a simple curtain panel pattern with simple profile, probably like a mullion for the seam one both end?

Re: Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:17:33 GMT

yes! it a shell roof. maybe a simple rectangle curtain panel will do.

Re: Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:18:30 GMT

we've tried this method too. it's a mess. ;(

Re: Metal Roof Panel

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:24:01 GMT

@irmarissa wrote:
yes! it a shell roof. maybe a simple rectangle curtain panel will do.

I didn't suggest using SYSTEM panels because of their shape. I suggested them because of their intelligence. Try shape-editing a Curtain Wall Type using your Custom Panel and then try shape-editing a Curtain Wall Type using a SYSTEM Panel. You'll then see what I mean.

Re: Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:00:58 GMT

couldn't agree more. I'm just too concentrate one the detailing but forgot about thar critical part. in the end it's all about the perimeters and area that matter for the client. maybe i should think about the detailing after the design stage. thanks a lot for reminding me this!

Re: Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:06:17 GMT

thanks! I'll try this and we'll if it's works

Re: Metal Roof Panel

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:06:42 GMT

I wouldn't model the ribs in the Panel - and I would save that level of detail for Details. No different than you probably do now in AutoCAD. If you want to include them for aesthetic reasons (maybe for Rendering or shadow-casting), there are better ways to get there. But for planning and MTOs and QTOs and what not, using a rectangular shape is sufficient - and superior to what you produce in AutoCAD. Promise.

FWIW.

Re: Metal Roof Panel

irmarissa — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 03:41:22 GMT

thanks all! i have the idea to create the standing seam roof using the curtain system.

Now, i have an additional question to ask. So, i have this roof geometry element and i need to divide the element as it is a limitation for the grid spacing.

But the existing element seem couldn't be divide or split. please refer to the attached.

Re: Metal Roof Panel

ToanDN — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:04:52 GMT

@irmarissa wrote:

thanks all! i have the idea to create the standing seam roof using the curtain system.

Now, i have an additional question to ask. So, i have this roof geometry element and i need to divide the element as it is a limitation for the grid spacing.

But the existing element seem couldn't be divide or split. please refer to the attached.

Divide or split meaning you make several smaller roofs from it:

- copyclip the roof

- paste aligned in place

- edit boundary of each and make each one a half (or smaller if you want to divide it even further)

However, it is better be done using mass > divided surface > curtain panel pattern base. You won't have the same limitation as sloped glazing.