topic Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall in Revit Architecture Forum

adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:37:08 GMT

I basically have one wall in front of another wall but on of these two is a component model in place wall and I am trying to add a door or window to these two joined wall.

But when I do, It will only go thru one of the two walls. Does anyone know how to get the doors and windows to cut through both walls?

thanks in advance

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:46:53 GMT

Joining the walls not working?

If not, it sounds like the family is using a Void Cut and not a Opening Cut. In that case, make sure the Void Extrusion extends well beyond the Host Wall in the Family and use Cut Geometry to manually Cut the other Project Walls with the Void in the Family.

Post your Family here if you want us to look at it.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

ToanDN — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:45:17 GMT

Edit: just looked at your picture. Making the void in the family longer should fix it.

Join geometry the walls. Use cut opening in the door or window family then it should cut both walls in project. If you use a void in the door or window family then the void should be long enough to cut through both walls in project.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:44:52 GMT

Not working, one is a model in place wall and the second one is an architectural wall.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:52:45 GMT

You need to manually cut the Opening in the Project -- or use a Void Opening in the Family as mentioned above.

Why are you using an In-Place Modeled Wall in the first place? Maybe there's a better solution for that.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:21:22 GMT

Same problem here, even if I create a void in the window family (long enough) this will cut just the wall where the window is placed. Seems like there's no relation (even after joint wall) between a model in place wall and a architectural wall. Here attached two screenshots.

Also I've tried with cut opening, same result.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

ToanDN — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:27:13 GMT

In-place wall? Then edit the family, do not cut the host wall with the void, set the family to Cut with Void when loaded, and use Cut geometry twice to cut the system wall and the in-lace wall in the project.

Why does it need to be in-place model?

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:39:14 GMT

I created a void extrusion on the Model In Place wall. Then cut and select void and the wall behind. That will do it but the thing is that the window doesn't stretch to the second wall, bit annoying (see pictures).

How can I set the family to Cut with void when loaded?I'll try this way.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

ToanDN — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:02:29 GMT

@d.bettin wrote:

I created a void extrusion on the Model In Place wall. Then cut and select void and the wall behind. That will do it but the thing is that the window doesn't stretch to the second wall, bit annoying (see pictures).

How can I set the family to Cut with void when loaded?I'll try this way.

I meant the void in the window family, not in the in place family. You can see Cut with Void when loaded option from the Properties in the window family.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:51:29 GMT

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:58:09 GMT

Same result, 😕

See screnshots.

I also tried a new model from scratch but no success. For now the only solution it's the void in the wall separate from the window.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:01:09 GMT

The fastest and easiest way for us to help you is by looking at your file. Post the RVT here. Know how?

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

ToanDN — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:05:27 GMT

@d.bettin wrote:

Same result, 😕

See screnshots.

I also tried a new model from scratch but no success. For now the only solution it's the void in the wall separate from the window.

See edited post showing the pictures of a window with a void cutting through a system wall and an in-place wall.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:08:29 GMT

Correct?

level 2, LHS corner.

Can you open it?

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

ToanDN — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:13:56 GMT

@d.bettin wrote:

Correct?

level 2, LHS corner.

Can you open it?

You almost got it. Just use Cut geometry to cut the system furring wall with the window.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jul 2022 16:37:17 GMT

CUT GEOMETRY as mentioned above.

Re: adding window/doors through two model in place component wall

d.bettin — Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:39:27 GMT

Thank you both.

It's working and it's a good solution for the moment.

The only annoying thing I have to find a solution for it's to automatically extend the window sill to the entire wall pack.

If you have any suggestion that would be great, otherwise I will start another topic later on 🙂