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    <title>topic Re: How to make wooden columns ? in Revit Architecture Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Where do you find the structural columns, I clicked on structural but it does not look like the one you have.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099576iE836950806231FE1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:40:28 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:40:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11335968#M72530</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, I have been trying to make the columns for this part of the building, but there is only steel, concrete ones. I already have other concrete and steel ones and when I duplicate it, it changes all of them. Thinking that duplicating would allow me to make different ones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659467096761.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099538iD8679D7F67F72DED/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659467096761.png" alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659467096761.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 19:04:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T19:04:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11335983#M72531</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Did you already figure out all your other issues?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, regarding this wooden column thing: it sounds like you are changing the properties of a Shared Asset.&amp;nbsp; Don't do that.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 19:11:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11335983#M72531</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T19:11:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11335994#M72532</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Now remember: you don't need to start a new thread to reply to me.&amp;nbsp; Just reply here.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 19:14:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11335994#M72532</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T19:14:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336024#M72533</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;BTW: Do you know the difference between Instance and Type Parameters?&amp;nbsp; That might be a factor here as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.cadlinecommunity.co.uk/hc/en-us/articles/201872231-Difference-between-Instance-and-Type-Parameter-Revit#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20instance%20and%20type%20parameter%20in%20Revit%3F&amp;amp;text=Instance%20Parameter%20%E2%80%93%20Enables%20you%20to,elements%20of%20the%20family%20type" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.cadlinecommunity.co.uk/hc/en-us/articles/201872231-Difference-between-Instance-and-Type-Parameter-Revit#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20instance%20and%20type%20parameter%20in%20Revit%3F&amp;amp;text=Instance%20Parameter%20%E2%80%93%20Enables%20you%20to,elements%20of%20the%20family%20type&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 19:31:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336024#M72533</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T19:31:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336087#M72534</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;For the roofing no, the roofing for the mail center I tried to make two roofs separate but it does not look connected.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Like this one&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659470456465.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099563i8C573FD0304F2289/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659470456465.png" alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659470456465.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:00:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336087#M72534</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:00:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336123#M72535</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is there a video for this?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:18:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336123#M72535</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:18:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336124#M72536</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are you being serous here? You are showing me an image that is incorrect in your assessment.&amp;nbsp; That is an image is found on a PDF of a Sheet that you posted on another thread. &lt;U&gt;Nowhere&lt;/U&gt; in the RVT file you posted is there a View that corresponds with what that image shows. So, what's the point?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:18:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336124#M72536</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:18:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336125#M72537</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3931202"&gt;@jgarciacorpus69&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a video for this?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For what?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:19:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336125#M72537</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:19:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336132#M72538</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The reason that image for the is the roofing plan for the mailing center, it does not look like that in the&amp;nbsp; rvt file because I am still working on making it look like that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:23:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336132#M72538</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:23:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336133#M72539</link>
      <description>&lt;P class="lia-align-justify"&gt;Like a video on&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;Instance and Type Parameters?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:23:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336133#M72539</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:23:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336135#M72540</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Why don't you just load wood column family in from the library?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:25:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336135#M72540</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:25:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336143#M72541</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I see in the family Lumber Columns, is it this one?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My apologies this is my 5th consecutive month working on Revit since 2019, still working on it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472070373.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099568iCA349BD03C31B502/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472070373.png" alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472070373.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:28:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336143#M72541</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:28:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336154#M72542</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3931202"&gt;@jgarciacorpus69&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I see in the family Lumber Columns, is it this one?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My apologies this is my 5th consecutive month working on Revit since 2019, still working on it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yes. Lumber is wood.&amp;nbsp; Make sure you load the family from Structural Columns, not Columns.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ToanDN_0-1659472290070.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099574i92B1890AEAEFDB24/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ToanDN_0-1659472290070.png" alt="ToanDN_0-1659472290070.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:32:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336154#M72542</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:32:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336169#M72543</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Where do you find the structural columns, I clicked on structural but it does not look like the one you have.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099576iE836950806231FE1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:40:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336169#M72543</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:40:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Structural Columns</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336171#M72544</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Where do you find the structural columns, I clicked on structural but it does not look like the one you have.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099576iE836950806231FE1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" alt="jgarciacorpus69_0-1659472825001.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 20:40:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336171#M72544</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T20:40:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Structural Columns</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336279#M72545</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Why are you looking in Annotations category?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 22:12:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336279#M72545</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-02T22:12:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336610#M72546</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just looked and guess what,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3931202"&gt;@jgarciacorpus69&lt;/a&gt;...I have no wooden columns either!&amp;nbsp; Only brick, granny floral wallpaper, chrome, grass (nicely manicured; no brown spots) and Jell-O.&amp;nbsp; Don’t know what flavor though.&amp;nbsp; Looks like grape.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Columns.png" style="width: 300px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1099643i45863319AC67DC24/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="Columns.png" alt="Columns.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Only half-kidding here.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 03:43:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11336610#M72546</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-03T03:43:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns ?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11337702#M72547</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Maybe I could update the Column and just edit the material in project properties as a wooden material ? But when I do that and want to set it up to the plane I want it does not allow me because it is above the plane of where I am trying to place the column at.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 14:30:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11337702#M72547</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-03T14:30:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns Still figuring that out</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11337704#M72548</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Maybe I could update the Column and just edit the material in project properties as a wooden material ? But when I do that and want to set it up to the plane I want it does not allow me because it is above the plane of where I am trying to place the column at.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 14:30:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11337704#M72548</guid>
      <dc:creator>jgarciacorpus69</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-03T14:30:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to make wooden columns Still figuring that out</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11338871#M72549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Pay attention to the Options Bar when placing Columns.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Option Bar Column.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1100128i7B1EB0FF51163475/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Option Bar Column.png" alt="Option Bar Column.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 23:35:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/how-to-make-wooden-columns/m-p/11338871#M72549</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-03T23:35:17Z</dc:date>
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