topic Re: Can't without deleting annotation in Revit Architecture Forum

Can't without deleting annotation

kevinpo — Tue, 07 Jan 2025 17:25:10 GMT

So this has been bugging me for year. Why can we not not move items without all of the warning about how many annotative object have to be deleted? Yet I can nudge the heck out of it and eyeball to the new location and the objects remain.

This is supposed to be an accurate drawing platform; why do you make users go through this?

Come on AutoDesk you can do better..

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RSomppi — Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:17:52 GMT

@kevinpo wrote:
This is supposed to be an accurate drawing platform

Not really.

@kevinpo wrote:
Why can we not not move items without all of the warning about how many annotative object have to be deleted?

Would you rather not be warned about the impending doom of losing annotation?

Have you tried moving without "Disjoin" checked?

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

SteveKStafford — Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:21:27 GMT

As mentioned by @RSomppi make sure the Disjoin option is disabled for the Move tool. Disjoin deletes and recreates the element involved in the move, in the new location, to break a relationship with any other elements (thus the word disjoin).

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

handjonathan — Thu, 09 Jan 2025 11:00:43 GMT

Hi @kevinpo

Thanks a lot for posting your question to the forums!   Have the solutions suggested by @RSomppi @SteveKStafford helped with your issue?
 
We look forward to hearing back from you with more information so we can help you as a community! 

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

seydauzun — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:59:47 GMT

This problem is resolved in Revit 2024 for your info. I use align tool as a suggestion, when you move the elements with align rather then move, anno will be preserved.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RSomppi — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:16:35 GMT

@seydauzun wrote:
This problem is resolved in Revit 2024 for your info.

How is that? AFAIK, there has been no change in this for years. It's expected behavior.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

seydauzun — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:48:17 GMT

@RSomppi , this is our 2024 project in the video, and we do not lose dimensions. Is something wrong with us ? 😄

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RSomppi — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:00:49 GMT

It has always worked like that, that's not new for 2024.

Now try it with the "Disjoin" button checked.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

seydauzun — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:04:28 GMT

Not in previous versions

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RSomppi — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:21:44 GMT

Did you check the disjoin button?

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RDAOU — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:56:49 GMT

@seydauzun

May I disagree with that statement? "Has been Resolved" ?? I believe Move, Drag, and Nudge all work as expected, and there was no issue to resolve in the first place.

Disjoin, taken literally as a word, simply meants to disconnects some restraint between two components. If the component isn’t locked or pinned, this would typically refer to the dimension strings.
Unchecking Disjoin switches the Move command to Drag mode. Drag mode is essentially a simplified version of Move, even sharing the same icon.

The behavior of Move with and without Disjoin has been consistent for as long as I can remember. While I didn’t use 2024 and I am not sure id any changes were made in that version but I can confirm that in 2025.4, Move/Disjon functions as it always has.

In the GIF above, with a clean model containing just one wall, one desk and one dimension string, Revit won't complete the move unless the dimensions are disconnected/disjoined...Only when Disjoin is UNCHECKED, Move switchs to Drag

Edit: Sorry, the reply should have went to @kevinpo

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

ToanDN — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:24:57 GMT

It works the same for every version. DO NOT CHECK the Disjoin Box.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

seydauzun — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:32:40 GMT

All right, i was wrong

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

Mbruno-JDB — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:50:23 GMT

Love this thread. I hate so much when I try to move something and it wants to delete my tags. I just end up dragging things.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RSomppi — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 21:52:06 GMT

I also recommend putting off annotating until the modeling is finished as much as possible.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

Mbruno-JDB — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 21:55:17 GMT

Much more often than I would like, I've had extensive revisions, long into CDs.

Re: Can't without deleting annotation

RSomppi — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:08:36 GMT

I wonder if @kevinpo, is ever going to chime in.