topic Re: How to move room tag's base point in Revit Architecture Forum

How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 08:58:29 GMT

I want the room tag base point to be at the centre of the text rather than at the bottom. This is because where I drag a tag to the bottom corner of a small room to fit it in, it moves outside the room boundary, making it invalid.

I've searched through forums where one solution suggested creating invisible lines at the top and bottom of the family. Unfortunately this didn't work.

Any help would be appreciated!

(see screenshots as attached)

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 15:10:06 GMT

Check Leader Line and drag the Tag to where you want it.

....are you wanting to move the origin? The origin in Visible when you turn on "Reference" Subcategory under Room Category in VGOs.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 15:26:44 GMT

Re: How to move room tag's base point

constantin.stroescu — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 20:51:12 GMT

you can use Dynamo for this. You have to load Rhytm Package for this:

Re: How to move room tag's base point

constantin.stroescu — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 21:03:48 GMT

sorry, the correct spelling of the Package is : Rhythm

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 12:42:07 GMT

I'd rather not turn the leader line on as the text fits within the room and there would be a random line showing in the middle of the room (as attached screencast).

I'm don't know if it's the room origin that needs moving. Is it not possible to move the 'origin' of the room tag? There seems to be a specific point at the bottom of the tag which is triggering the error when it moves out the room zone.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 12:44:36 GMT

screencast video

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 12:51:19 GMT

You need to go to VGO's and turn on the Reference Subcategory under Rooms and then you can grab the origin and move it.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

RSomppi — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:41:50 GMT

Edit the family and move the objects within the family so that they are centered on the origin.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:26:29 GMT

I've moved the points but I'm still getting the same issue.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:30:32 GMT

Thank you, this has worked!

Is there no way to change the origin point of the family? The project has a fair amount of rooms so it would save having to move all the tags.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:48:02 GMT

@owen_bentley wrote:

I've moved the points but I'm still getting the same issue.

Can you restate the issue?

Re: How to move room tag's base point

RSomppi — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:43:29 GMT

@owen_bentley wrote:
Thank you, this has worked!

Is there no way to change the origin point of the family? The project has a fair amount of rooms so it would save having to move all the tags.

Did you try moving the reference plains that set the origin? I didn't think it would work but it might.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:49:10 GMT

When I drag my room tag to the corner of one of my small rooms, revit doesn't recognise that it still sits within that room's boundary. This is something to do with the fact that the room tag's 'origin' point seems to be sitting below the lines of text.

I have solved this issue simply by moving the text within the family downwards as per @RSomppi suggestion.

However, I'm looking to see if there is a way to move the actual origin point to save moving all of the room tags which have already been placed

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:53:59 GMT

Okay, unless the labels in the tag family were way the heck away from the x,y Origin Ref. Plane, I have no idea how that would "work". Were they? If not, then I wouldn't be moving them.

Tell you what - post your file and let us inspect it. Do you know how to do that?

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:55:16 GMT

There aren't reference lines existing within the family.

I tried creating some, but to no avail. It still seems to be dictated by this invisible origin point.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:59:02 GMT

Turn them on under VGO's Annotation Category.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

RSomppi — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:59:01 GMT

@owen_bentley wrote:
There aren't reference lines existing within the family.

Yes, there are. You have them turned off in the visibility settings V/G Overrides.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

owen_bentley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:06:22 GMT

Thanks, please see attached for the annotation family.

I've played around with the reference plane and there doesn't seem to be a correlation with it's room bounding origin point.

Re: How to move room tag's base point

barthbradley — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 17:05:29 GMT

@owen_bentley wrote:
Thanks, please see attached for the annotation family.

I've played around with the reference plane and there doesn't seem to be a correlation with it's room bounding origin point.

This Tag Family is fine. You don't need to mess with it.

Post the RVT (Project) that you're having issues with.