topic Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong in Revit Architecture Forum

Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ryley.g.h — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 15:50:49 GMT

At our office we have a lot of trouble with Revit printing. We seem to have this issue: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Draw-order-changes-when-printing-to-PDF-with-Vector-setting-in-Revit.html

Currently using 2022.1, and the Diroots plugin to print our files.

The suggested change to raster printing works, and corrects the draw order, but it makes our files so large that some building departments refuse to accept them! Because they are rastered, once they are compressed a lot of the quality is lost, and things become pixilated. Is there any better solution to this issue, or perhaps a different plugin that will generate correct looking PDF's if plotted as vectors?

Here is our Diroots print settings:

We have found that anything less than Presentation quality produces low quality prints that again, are all pixilated.

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

RSomppi — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:09:36 GMT

Start with the root of the problem.

What is it about the draw order that you are trying to overcome?

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ToanDN — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:55:12 GMT

Have you tried Revit native Export to PDF tool?

Can you share a sample model with the issue? I can't tell from the total of 12 pixels in the referenced article.

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

barthbradley — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:47:55 GMT

The second suggested workaround is asinine. Use the Linework tool? WTF?

Thanks for posting that article. Someone else on this forum recently posted about having the same issue.

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ryley.g.h — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:35:47 GMT

There are multiple examples of this happening, but the one that is most noticeable would be curbs along walls. We model a 6" tall by 6" wide curb along an exterior wall with a floor. We prefer this to a sweep because it's easier to phase sections of a floor for existing/demolition/new as we repair parts of the curb.

Office standards for existing exterior walls is a grey, solid infill with solid black cut lines, and the existing curb is just grey solid lines as it isn't being cut through.

Image 1 vector print:

Image 2 Raster print:

Image 3 vector print:

You can really see the issue in image 3, as only one side of the wall has a curb, the interior portion of the wall is the intended solid black line, while the portion of wall with a curb we are leaving existing to remain looses this solid black line.

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ryley.g.h — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:37:51 GMT

I found the line work tool suggestion funny too... it's like telling us to use Revit as if it were AutoCAD....

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ryley.g.h — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 17:43:25 GMT

Thanks for suggestion, but didn't work...

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ToanDN — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:20:12 GMT

Here is a PDF printed using Bluebeam with Line Merge.

But I agree with you that the way Revit printing halftone and colors over black is just dumb. They ought to fix it.

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ryley.g.h — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 20:42:03 GMT

I'm not familiar with blue beam. Did you print from Revit using bluebeam, or did you do this after printing a vector pdf from Revit?

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

ToanDN — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 20:44:07 GMT

@ryley.g.h wrote:

I'm not familiar with blue beam. Did you print from Revit using bluebeam, or did you do this after printing a vector pdf from Revit?

I printed it from Revit to Bluebeam PDF printer.

Re: Printing draw order on vector is wrong

emodderman — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:40:05 GMT

Ultimately, I've been informed that the development team is aware of it and they're still working on a solution. No timeline is available, so my guess is it's pretty low priority at this point.