topic Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues in Revit Architecture Forum

Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:35:53 GMT

Hello Everyone,

I'm having an issue with a compound wall behavior in section. I've got two wall types set up. Wall one represents a tile wainscot and wall two the wall base installed below the wainscot. Wall two shows both compound layers and the appropriate cut pattern in section. Wall one, however, does not show either the compound layers or cut pattern but displays the surface pattern of both finish materials. Both walls have the same base constraint and an unconnected height but they differ in the following ways:

Wall One-

Base Offset: 4"

Unconnected Height: 3'8"

Materials:

* Substrate: "FINISH - Grout", 1/16" thick

* Finish 2 (5): "FINISH - Wall Tile, Field", 5/16" thick, Wraps = Yes

* Finish 2 (5): "FINISH - Wall Tile, Bullnose", 5/16" thick, Wraps = Yes

Wall Two-

Base Offset: 0"

Unconnected Height: 4"

Materials:

* Substrate: Adhesive, 1/16" thick

* Sweep: "FINISH - Wall Tile, Cove Base", Cuts Wall = Yes, Cuttable = No

What the heck could be going on?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:12:26 GMT

Unjoin Walls.

Base Extension Distance changes how walls joins look graphically (autodesk.com)

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

ToanDN — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:59:40 GMT

Why can't you just have just one wall and split regions in the wall layer configuration to separate the base and the wainscot?

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-50482AF3-42C3-4993-A7B5-EB3E1C17FAE1

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:19:14 GMT

I certainly could do that. I need the wall base on other walls that do not have the wainscot, however so it seemed simpler in this case to seperate them. Would that be contributing to the problem I'm experiencing?

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:21:10 GMT

They aren't joined.

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:24:59 GMT

@lpendergraft wrote:
They aren't joined.

I guess I'm misinterpreting what's going on then. What about creating Parts from Walls? That resolve?

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:27:17 GMT

Good idea! I tried that too but it told me that it can't make parts out of these elements. So frustrating.

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:29:34 GMT

@lpendergraft wrote:
Good idea! I tried that too but it told me that it can't make parts out of these elements. So frustrating.

That's odd. A new wrinkle. Can you share your file?

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:39:21 GMT

Here you go!

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:53:08 GMT

This what you are trying to do?

If so, I just overlapped and joined them in the correct order. Join removes volume at union, so QTOs should be correct.

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:07:27 GMT

That looks perfect! Can you please elborate on what you mean by "overlapped" and "QTO"? What was I doing wrong?

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:12:18 GMT

Just drag the upper wall base down a tad so that it overlaps the lower wall. Then join the two walls together - in the correct order. That's it.

QTO=Quantity Take-Off.

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:19:21 GMT

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:21:50 GMT

That did it. Thank you both so very much (again)!

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

barthbradley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:34:17 GMT

@lpendergraft wrote:
That did it. Thank you both so very much (again)!

Great. I'll look forward to receiving that lil' green checkmark.

Re: Compound wall visibility/behavior issues

lpendergraft — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:35:57 GMT

😅