topic Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value? in Revit Architecture Forum

How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 15:35:55 GMT

Hi, what's the best way to make a truly dummy tag whose tag number can be entered with any value, rather than associated with anything in the model? I'm adding tags all over my drawings, but the dummy tag I make is always associated with something. For example, in the screen capture, the tag for the guardrail is 2. If I add another tag to the guardrail at a different location on the drawing, it will still be 2. If I change it, it would change the first tag. But I'd like to type in any number without any association. There must be an easy way of doing it but I just can't figure out how. Please help.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

RobDraw — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 15:45:01 GMT

If it's not tied to information in the model, it's not a tag. It's annotation text.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

Yien_Chao — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 15:54:02 GMT

you are looking for a generic annotation maybe? its a symbol. not a text, not a tag. we use it for our general annotation.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

allen.weed27FCF — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 16:29:23 GMT

It sounds to me like you might want to add an instance parameter to your railing or other objects you are tagging and then copy and modify your tag to read that new parameter. I would create a shared parameter called Guardrail Instance Tag or something like that.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

ToanDN — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 16:32:14 GMT

Add Mark parameter to the label of the Tag. Mark is an instance parameter and you can enter any number to any element independently from others.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 18:50:07 GMT

Do you mind uploading one that you use? Thanks

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 18:51:40 GMT

The Mark parameter that I can add after clicking on Edit (Tag Label) is also a type parameter. How do I add an instance parameter?

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

ToanDN — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:35:44 GMT

@studioPZDLB wrote:

The Mark parameter that I can add after clicking on Edit (Tag Label) is also a type parameter. How do I add an instance parameter?

No. Mark is not a type parameter. You must have used Type Mar parameter. Try again.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:54:14 GMT

I intentionally avoided Type Mark and used Mark, but it still behaves like a type parameter. See screencapture attached.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:54:57 GMT

Also attaching the tag file.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

ToanDN — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 20:00:02 GMT

@studioPZDLB wrote:

I intentionally avoided Type Mark and used Mark, but it still behaves like a type parameter. See screencapture attached.

This is correct. Now you can enter different marks for different elements when tagging in the project. Below is using your family.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

Mike.FORM — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 20:26:33 GMT

It appears the issue is OP wants to to have the value be different for the same element. In OPs original post the capture shows 2 tags on the same railing at different spots. The mark parameter is the same because it is the same railing instance.

If you want the tag to be different you need to use a generic annotation family not a tag family.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:12:24 GMT

Yes, you are right. That's what I'm trying to do. Following your suggestion, I made a Generic Annotation family with a tag as instance parameter. So it does what I want to do. But how do I add the leader so it can point to things?

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

allen.weed27FCF — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:28:52 GMT

The leader should be a check box when placing the tag. That check box should be at the top left of your screen while placing the tag, under the ribbon bar.

Re: How to make a "truly" dummy tag that can be entered with any value?

studioPZDLB — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 02:23:32 GMT

That works. Thanks all.