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RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 08:33:44 GMT

HI I CREATED A SPHERE BALUSTER FAMLY AS SHOWN IN THE IMAGE AND ADDED IT TO PROJECT WITH RAILING.

THE PROBLEM I AM FACING IS THE RAIL CENTER NOT SAME AS BALUSTER CENTER AS SHOWN BELOW

I TRIED WITH CUSTOM PROFILE AS WELL AS THE REVIT DEFAULT PROFILES

APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE HELPS REAGRDING THIS ISSUE

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

kostask_oionei — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:21:26 GMT

Hi,

What is the horizontal element? Top Rail, hand rail or rail? Does it have an offset?

Do you share a screenshot for that?

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:23:36 GMT

HORIZONTAL ELEMENT IS THE INTERMEDIATE RAIL. BALUSTER SPHERE IS ON THE RAIL 1 STRUCTURE

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

kostask_oionei — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:29:25 GMT

Does the intermediate Rail have an offset?

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Fri, 02 Jun 2023 08:55:14 GMT

hi this is the rail edit options & height

This is the baluster placement options. Both rail origin & baluster origin not matching the same place

Please help

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

kostask_oionei — Fri, 02 Jun 2023 11:51:03 GMT

Hi,

Check the Baluster Offset in Railing type.

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Mike.FORM — Fri, 02 Jun 2023 20:23:43 GMT

Also, double check that the profile you are using for the rails "Circular Handrail1" is sketched with the centermark at the origin intersection in the profile family.

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 06:14:13 GMT

hi thanks for the reply I checked the edit type property. There is no offset value provided

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 06:19:43 GMT

hi i am placing the image of baluster i created & the rail here.

The image here is the baluster globe i created & also checked with revit's default baluster

The image below is the rail

In the project it looks like this

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 07:27:40 GMT

No proper solution found yet

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

kostask_oionei — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 11:46:55 GMT

Hi,

I didn't understand your problem correctly. I thought you were referring to some displacement in plan view.
From what I understand, however, you are referring to an elevation or a section.
Revit places the Ref. Level of the baluster at the top of the rail.

In the baluster family you can place a Reference Plane bellow the Ref. Level controlling the offset with a type parameter. Design the sphere with Work Plane the Reference Plane.

You can control the baluster height from this parameter.

Re: RAIL & BALUSTER REFERENCE LEVEL NOT SAME AS RAIL REFERENCE LEVEL IN PROJECT

Ajay_J_S — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 03:41:37 GMT

Hi thanks for figuring this out. Usually for any families we create the ref level of the family coincides and merge with the level of the project. When we load nested families component, the reference level & origin will merge or coincide with the other family. But this baluster doesn't seem to work that way. revits precision & accuracy is very low compared to other software. I would be difficult to create ref plance & offset to control the aligning based on the size & shape of baluster & rail family something going to top of rail without any means of eagerness is bad... Still need a solution without the ref plane & offset parameter

Anywat thanks for your valuable reply