topic Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel? in Revit Architecture Forum

Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:38:12 GMT

Hi!

I have a curtain panel/system panel problem:

I want to create an empty panel. Without any material - no glass or anyting.

If you create a curtain wall: And go to its properties: Edit Type: Curtain panel. There you should have an option to choose Empty? Or should you? I have seen that option in "other guys program". 😄

How can I create curtain/system panel or edit the family to empty one?

And where on earth are those Curtain Panels and System panels actually??

In file manager I have not found them (the family files)? Nor the Windows search function does not help? But they must be somewhere?

If I choose None to Curtain panel, should it be totally empty? I think it should, but I have managed to get glas into it too!

;-D

.........

Thank you, if you can somehow help me, this issue is too complex to me! ;-D

Best wishes

Matti Kettunen 🙂

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

Alfredo_Medina — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:35:18 GMT

From an elevation view, make a window selection around one of the panels. Use Filter (the funnel icon at the lower right corner of the interface) to select only the curtain panel; close the filter window. Then Edit Type > Family : Empty panel , Type : empty.

If you do these steps and you still cannot change the panel, probably the curtain wall is of the "storefront" type. Change it to the "curtain wall" type and try again.

See illustration.

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:23:18 GMT

Hi!

Thanks again Alfredo!

That was simple and good advice from you again!

Best wishes,

Matti Kettunen 🙂

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:46:26 GMT

http://seek.autodesk.com/product/locale/adsk/revit/families/arch/empty/Revit_ARC151

This is an easier way

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

PhilipVandenbussche — Mon, 19 May 2014 08:08:46 GMT

Super and simple solution, thanx Rick!

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

DmetcalfGHY4B — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:57:53 GMT

Where will I find this now with the switch over from Seek to BIMobjects? The old Seek links do not work.

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

DmetcalfGHY4B — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:14:35 GMT

Seems we can find the "Empty" panels in the Commercial Template. I was able to copy it over and utilize it in our template.

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 00:23:24 GMT

+1 for loading the empty system panel from the default libraries 👍

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

ToanDN — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 00:28:52 GMT

There is different between Empty Panel family loaded from a library and Empty System Panel only exists in Projects. The former can only be assigned to rectangular cells whereas the latter can be assigned to any shapes.

If you want the true Empty System Panel, transfer project standards from the OOTB Architectural project template.

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

daniel.jl.9443 — Sat, 23 May 2020 02:56:27 GMT

@ToanDN , how do you transfer project standards from the default OOTB Architectural template when there is no system empty panel in that template??

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

ToanDN — Sat, 23 May 2020 03:15:29 GMT

Sure there is.

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

Vuxvix — Fri, 23 Jun 2023 00:39:28 GMT

Hi! @ToanDN
Is it possible to create an "Empty Panel" with a feature like "Empty System Panel"!?

I want to create ALC wall by ALC Panel. At many Points I need to cross cut or open hole (for Pipe) the ALC Panel.
Or another solution.
Thanks!

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

radimtkadlec — Tue, 18 Nov 2025 16:02:45 GMT

You ned to load the default template form here:

"C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\YourRevitVersion\Templates\YourLanguage\Default.rte".

If you load the default template directly from the templates folder, there is indeed no empty system panel.

Re: Empty system panel? How and where to edit system panel?

jore_vanmeenenXVAVM — Tue, 27 Jan 2026 10:30:04 GMT

This worked like a charm, thanks @radimtkadlec! 👍