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    <title>topic Re: Moving introduce “Can't keep elements joined”, in Revit Architecture Forum</title>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:48:10 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>GHASEM_ARIYANI</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-10-08T09:48:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Moving introduce “Can't keep elements joined”,</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/moving-introduce-can-t-keep-elements-joined/m-p/3649340#M350523</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Moving introduce “Can't keep elements joined”,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I tried to move my drawing to make it at the center of the elevation tags but I have a message saying “can't keep elements joined”&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the effect of accepting or rejecting this message?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, I’m wondering if there is a command that place the drawing at the center of the elevation tags.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the help,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jamal&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="Clip_117.jpg" align="middle" src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/39366i64D1079A21CE09D2/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" title="Clip_117.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="Clip_118.jpg" align="middle" src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/39368iAF8D09FF089CCDCC/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" title="Clip_118.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:47:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JamaL9722060</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-06T21:47:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Moving introduce “Can't keep elements joined”,</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/moving-introduce-can-t-keep-elements-joined/m-p/3650004#M350524</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Two&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;approaches&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;this problem&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;however&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;it seems&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;me&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;you&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;think&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1 -&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;First,&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;get&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;into&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;a 3D &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;view&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;, and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;click&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;drag&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;select&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;all&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;elements&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;-&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;The&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;2D &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;view&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;for&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;example,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;plane&amp;nbsp;(level)&amp;nbsp;down the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;Ctrl key&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;elements of&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;the plan&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;and go&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;with the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;next two&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;for&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;example,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;choose a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt; Dimenssion &lt;SPAN&gt;line&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You can now use&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;Move Tool&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;move the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;elements&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2 -&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;The second method&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;can open&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;a&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;new file&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;the&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;files&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;in it&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;to&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN&gt;Link&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:48:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/moving-introduce-can-t-keep-elements-joined/m-p/3650004#M350524</guid>
      <dc:creator>GHASEM_ARIYANI</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-08T09:48:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Moving introduce “Can't keep elements joined”,</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/moving-introduce-can-t-keep-elements-joined/m-p/3650164#M350525</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Moving the entire building (while possible) is not recommended, especially&amp;nbsp;for such as trivial purpose. The error you are getting there means that some of your elements are going to lose their association with each other. Not good.&amp;nbsp;Also, there are many issues that will crop up, &lt;EM&gt;especially &lt;/EM&gt;with others who are coordinating with your Model. Additionally, it is probable that may not select &lt;EM&gt;every &lt;/EM&gt;element, which will cause more problems of course. And lastly, moving the entire model will cause significant problems with your Annotations in your Views. You'd have to go to each one to relocate any text, generic annotations, etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Simple answer: DO NOT move the model. Instead, mode the Elevation Tags to accommodate your model's position.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:31:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/moving-introduce-can-t-keep-elements-joined/m-p/3650164#M350525</guid>
      <dc:creator>CoreyDaun</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-08T12:31:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Moving introduce “Can't keep elements joined”,</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/moving-introduce-can-t-keep-elements-joined/m-p/3650928#M350526</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks for the help guys.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Perfect. Then better to move the tags rather than the drawing. this answers my question.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jamal&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:22:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JamaL9722060</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-08T20:22:38Z</dc:date>
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