topic Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ? in Revit Architecture Forum

1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:58:02 GMT

I am creating a project where the walls consist of two parts. I started using revit for this project due to the many qualities you can give each part of the wall. I wanted to make the drawing convey this visually by controlling the various line types. It seems however, that you can't do this. The wall is split into a heavy inner wall, which is structural and consists of something concrete'ish or brick'ish, and then a much lighter outer wall that includes finish and insulation. That is the level of abstraction I want to be at. See the picture below, a quick photoshop sketch. That is roughly how I want it to look ( although the difference in line those line thicknesses is exaggerated. )

However, revit is only able to control 2 line thicknesses for walls - and these are defined as projections and cuts. Do you have some idea on how to do this, so it roughly looks like the sketch below? I have tried making 2d annotations all over, and it works somewhat. But its tiresome and requires some constraining, and I prefer not to have too many of those this early in the process. I have a theory that it should be possible if you go to object styles and create additional subcategories in there, based on materials, but only the main cut and projection values change anything. The subcategories do nothing.

Help !

Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

rosskirby — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:18:03 GMT

Model them as two separate walls, then use the Object Styles to set up the global cut line weights, and use a filter to override the cut line weights for the finish walls for each view that you want to have them appear lighter. Make sure you manually join the parallel walls so that anything hosted by one (window, door, etc.) cuts through both.

Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

Simon_Weel — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:13:43 GMT

You can control the line colors and thickness in walls by opening Visibility / Graphic Overrides and then click the Edit button in the lower right corner in the section 'Override Host Layers'. It's a wholesale operation - changes you make apply to all walls....

Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

ToanDN — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:47:57 GMT

Another possibility is separating Wall to Part.

Pick the Wall Core:

Create a View Filter to single out the Wall Core Parts. Override the Cut Line of the Wall Core filter to thicker line.

Override the Wall Cutline, or change the Object Styles if you want it global, to a thinner line.

Voila:

Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:56:09 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:
Another possibility is separating Wall to Part.

Voila:

This works. I am a little nervous about adding "parts" to the equation, however. I have mixed experience with this feature, as it makes the project a bit more complex to edit. But thanks. 🙂

Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

chrisplyler — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:52:17 GMT

You can use parts in a view you put on a sheet, but duplicate the view and change it to show original instead of show parts and your normal editing technique can be used in it. Or just switch the one view over to show original when you want to do edits.

Re: 1 wall, 2 diffent cut line values ?

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:40:14 GMT

- oh!

Thats clever. Im happy with this, it works fine. It seemed to be really difficult to fine tune line weights, but this is easy enough. I was beginning to get an impression that Revit only had a few default views, and only a single drawing dogma. I am pleased to find out that I am still making the drawings. Revit just helps me with the geometry.

As it should be.