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TITLE BLOCK TEXT ISSUE AFTER UPGRADING TO REVIT 2017

yavork — Thu, 19 May 2016 13:09:01 GMT

Just a little warning: after we upgraded our templates and few projects to Revit 2017 all our title block's text is not aligned any more - now instead of single line it goes to 2 lines, justification is missing etc...

That is not what we were expecting from the new and " Improved" Revit (which also broke some of our door families but apparently according to the support agents it is our problem not theirs)

So check your sheets before printing if you upgraded the templates and projects as we did.

(I am opening a case with support to see what they will say but probably is our fault again so no high hopes there...)

Re: TITLE BLOCK TEXT ISSUE AFTER UPGRADING TO REVIT 2017

dplumb_BWBR — Thu, 19 May 2016 14:23:05 GMT

Autodesk probably could have been more forcefull warning about the changes in 2017's Text, but don't expect them to "fix" it.

The problem is not that 2017 "broke" Text. The problem is that Text has been broken for the whole history of Revit, and now it works the way it should. Many of the differences are, in fact, because they wanted to make Text more consistent with (shudder) the way it works inAutoCAD.

Here's the technical details:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2017/ENU/Revit-WhatsNew/files/GUID-F57326A0-BCE1-44D6-A5FE-3F084258EE28-htm.html

No doubt that this is going to cause major pain and, in fact may cause our office to break from out long-standing "Upgrade all active proejcts every year" policy.

But the only way to "fix" this problem would be to give us another version of Text that's just as broken as the old version was.

Re: TITLE BLOCK TEXT ISSUE AFTER UPGRADING TO REVIT 2017

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Sep 2016 02:55:03 GMT

This is a very easy fix and its actually a windows setting:

Windows 7
1. Right click on desktop:
Select Personalize
2. Select Display - Lower Left
3. Select Smaller – 100%
It will require a Reboot of the machine.

Windows 10
1. Right click on desktop:
Select Display Settings
2. Adjust the slider bar at Change the size of text, apps and other items to 100%
3. Hit Apply

This will resolve all the text issues in Revit 2017

We have 180 Revit users and this is now the set protocol to have this set to 100% on their machines. Once we did that, the text issues went away.

Re: TITLE BLOCK TEXT ISSUE AFTER UPGRADING TO REVIT 2017

dplumb_BWBR — Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:13:01 GMT

Ghines; I'm glad you found something that worked for you.

But I'm skeptical.

Autodesk has been very up front about the fact that the way Text is measured is different in 2017 and will cause issues.

If you follow the link I posted, they explain this, and it has nothing to do with Windows Display Scaling.

The method for measuring text size is changed so that the Text Size parameter more accurately represents the height of a capital letter (similar to AutoCAD). Previously,Revit measured the size of text from the font baseline to the ascender line. Since most characters do not extend to the ascender line, physically measuring the font may not have produced expected results.

The size of text now reports using the cap height, which measures from the baseline to the top of a capital letter M as seen in the image below. This change affects all text in Revit. After upgrading a model, please review all views and sheets to verify the changes to your text instances.

Not that there aren't other issues with high resolution monitors, but that's not what yavork was describing.

Re: TITLE BLOCK TEXT ISSUE AFTER UPGRADING TO REVIT 2017

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:57:15 GMT

After upgrading to 2017, the text and labels in titleblocks show much differently in the .rfa vs in the project. I have the latest service pack installed...thoughts? For what it's worth, in Windows 10 the text is set to 100%