topic Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation in Revit Architecture Forum

Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Sat, 30 Dec 2023 21:16:23 GMT

Is there any way to display point cloud witch graphical override set to Elevation but witch adjusted value min and max? Like you can in recap, autocad or infraworks?

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Sat, 30 Dec 2023 22:13:50 GMT

Why don't you do it with View Range extents. Just set the Cut Plane and Top, Bottom and Depth to remove/include those Points needed in that View.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Sat, 30 Dec 2023 22:18:33 GMT

Changing the range does not affect the coloring of the point clouds because the extreme values are taken from the point cloud anyway. I don't want to remove the points, just to make it visible on the print which elements are above which. From what I see, it's sad that you can get it in other programs with a few clicks, but there is no such option here.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 00:17:44 GMT

I simply misunderstood your end goal. I thought this was about constructing a model from points.

This is what you are after; yes?

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2023/ENU/?guid=GUID-8D691E44-85EC-4F71-B043-1946802449AC

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:22:05 GMT

Yes. And I need a simple functionality to specify max and min values of colour gradient. For given cases, I use about 40% of the elevation range of point cloud - when it color due to whole range the differences are too small.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 16:16:04 GMT

@AMPI_PL wrote:
Yes. And I need a simple functionality to specify max and min values of colour gradient. For given cases, I use about 40% of the elevation range of point cloud - when it color due to whole range the differences are too small.

I'm still not understanding what you're trying to accomplish or what the end goal is. What do you mean when you say "I use about 40% of the elevation range" ? Use it how?

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 16:37:51 GMT

I have points in the cloud from 0 to 100 meters let's assume. In the drawing I have a part of an object where the elements range from e.g. 0-40 meters. The program colors the point cloud globally in the range of 0-100 meters, so the difference in colors in the range of 0-40 is unfortunately barely noticeable.
This is what the same piece of scanning looks like in AutoCAD and Revit, with the difference that in AutoCAD I can easily set the min/max height range for extreme colors. So I ask again: is there any way or a paid add-on that allows you to do this, or is Revit limited even in such a trivial matter (I don't even mention the possibility of setting the size of points in the scanning because I have already come to terms with it)?

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 16:58:36 GMT

As I said previously in this thread, you can limit the range via the View's View Range settings. I have no idea why you would want a 40 meter or 100 meter range in Plan View. What would be the purpose? Isn't the sole purpose of bringing the Point Cloud into Revit to serve as a reference for modeling?

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:14:27 GMT

Thank you for your help, but I don't think you understand the function I'm asking about and what it provides. Limiting the displayed points using the function is not even close to what I want to achieve. I don't also do models based on PC either.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:41:57 GMT

@AMPI_PL wrote:
Thank you for your help, but I don't think you understand the function I'm asking about and what it provides. Limiting the displayed points using the function is not even close to what I want to achieve. I don't also do models based on PC either.

Agreed. I don't understand the function you are asking about and because of that, I don't understand what "it" provides. Additionally confounding to me, is that you say you "don't...do models based on PC". Love to know what it is that you do do with PCs in Revit. You haven't articulated that once.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:31:03 GMT

This is recap - with 2-3 clicks i can set min and max height point of colour gradient. How to do this in revit cause now i see that i can do this in almost every program of AEC collection. Almost because revit cant do it.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:52:20 GMT

@AMPI_PL wrote:
This is recap - with 2-3 clicks i can set min and max height point of colour gradient. How to do this in revit cause now i see that i can do this in almost every program of AEC collection. Almost because revit cant do it.

Okay, so why do you ask? Why do you want that? For fun? because it looks pretty? Revit doesn't make coffee either, but there are appliances that do.

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Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Mon, 01 Jan 2024 01:12:11 GMT

Let me explain - you have pipes, cables or whatever that are located on different levels, for example on the first floor of a 10-story building. In AutoCAD, Infraworks or in the recap, I can easily set the view mode to recognize what is over or below what in top view. That you dont understand case dont mean that someone dont need this elemental features. Please leave this thread

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

barthbradley — Mon, 01 Jan 2024 01:17:36 GMT

@AMPI_PL wrote:
Please leave this thread

You first.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

josephbrown.design — Fri, 31 May 2024 14:03:59 GMT

@AMPI_PL Did you ever find an answer/solution to this as I am struggling to do the same? No point in an elevation view for a pointcloud if you cant set the range of the elevations!

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

DanielBrook — Wed, 06 Nov 2024 14:18:29 GMT

Sad to see such hostility in this thread. It was a reasonable question. I can see many reasons to want to control the elevation range. For instance, I am assessing the deviation of a concrete slab from a point cloud survey. As mentioned, recap easily does this, but it would be useful to have this ability inside of Revit rather than taking screen shots from recap. I ended up just cutting a new point cloud for the specific level range I was interest in and loading this in as an additional link.

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

Simon_Weel — Wed, 06 Nov 2024 16:25:48 GMT

Post is as idea in the Ideas-forum?

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

AMPI_PL — Wed, 06 Nov 2024 20:27:58 GMT

Unfortunately, I did not find a solution. All that remains is to cut out the different levels into separate cloudfiles and color them in different colors. Maybe in REVIT2030 they will unify the way the programs in the package work 🙂

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

sagnewYUXLR — Fri, 08 Nov 2024 11:32:12 GMT

what a thread lol

Re: Visibility/Graphics for Point Clouds - elevation

noahE7UMA — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:55:04 GMT

@AMPI_PL You were making perfect sense and I respect you keeping your cool amoungst such pointlessly hostile responses.

I am having the same issues regarding the weaving of pipes visible in an RCP. The functionality you describe is exactly what I am looking for, allowing quick over/under evaluation within a bracketed elevation min/max range in plan or RCP.