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Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:03:37 GMT

A team mate is attempting to insert a curtain wall into a masonry wall type and the curtain wall would not cut through the masonry wall. However, when I attempted to duplicate the situation on my machine, the curtain wall was able to cut through the masonry wall successfully. Now again I am trying to duplicate the situation on my other machine - and am getting the same results.

At first I advised to clean up the computer - delete locals, temp files, restart, etc. Did not help. What could be wrong?

Re: Curtain wall issue

Revit_Whisperer — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:20:19 GMT

Not all curtain walls are set to automatically embed ( a type parameter of the curtain wall). The one that is is the Storefront curtail wall type.

You can use the cut tool (on the modify menu,Geometry panel) to cut the opening around the curtail wall though if it is already drawn in the other wall. Select the wall to cut then what to cut with.

Re: Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:31:11 GMT

Hi @Revit_Whisperer we are using the Storefront Curtain Wall. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't on the same type of wall in a different location. Sometimes when the same wall is copied and placed in a different location the curtain wall will / will not work. Scratching my head here.

Re: Curtain wall issue

Revit_Whisperer — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:34:18 GMT

When you draw it make sure that you see the wall centerline show up to snap to or you will have the issue you are seeing

Re: Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:37:44 GMT

No go. Cut didn't work, Snapping to centerline didn't work.

Re: Curtain wall issue

Revit_Whisperer — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:40:47 GMT

If you start a new project does that happen too? If not could be some sort of corruption...hard to say. And I guess make sure that the embed checkmark didn't get removed on the storefront.

https://www.screencast.com/t/c1ftVRbwhnZ8

Re: Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:54:29 GMT

Embed checkmark? What have I missed?

(suffering a bad case of the Mondays)

Re: Curtain wall issue

loboarch — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 15:30:05 GMT

It is a type property of a curtain wall.

Re: Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 15:48:53 GMT

Embed checkmark on. This is a brand spanking new project being created to replace the old model.

Here's what I did to test - in the same project view, I drew a random wall, copied the properties from the 'bad' wall, dropped a storefront wall in there - and it cut. When I tried on the wall of the model (and I'm in the same file same view still) it DID NOT work. GRRR....

Re: Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:30:55 GMT

Also - neither can she, nor I, make the curtain walls obey. But the team member at the other end of the building can (and he has been told to continue the good work - no one will feel neglected >:)) !!! So creating new walls / a new Project may not be the answer!

Re: Curtain wall issue

Anonymous — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:18:35 GMT

Hello

is the masonry wall made by you or one of the existing types in the template ?

Re: Curtain wall issue

Sahay_R — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:17:04 GMT

It's a custom wall type.

Re: Curtain wall issue

ToanDN — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 05:59:23 GMT

@rsahayUZMK9 wrote:

Also - neither can she, nor I, make the curtain walls obey. But the team member at the other end of the building can (and he has been told to continue the good work - no one will feel neglected >:)) !!! So creating new walls / a new Project may not be the answer!

So he was able to embed the same curtain wall in the same wall but you was not? Or was it for another location?

Re: Curtain wall issue

Lance.Coffey — Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:26:50 GMT

Would it be possible to attach a small sample RVT that demonstrates the behavior (e.g. copy problematic wall(s) into a new file)?

This way we could take a closer look at the way the wall/project is configured.

Re: Curtain wall issue

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:42:05 GMT

Then the problem is most likely adjacent building parts. Any walls connecting to the one you are working with, either above or below?

Also, since this error does not exist on all work computers, the error is most likely instance-parameter-based.

Our in house BIM-expert often says: "Revit never does something which you do not tell it to do", and so far i haven't found one case where he hasn't been correct. 😉