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Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

aksel_alvarez — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 12:38:13 GMT

Hi everyone,

I have the following problem, after setting our exterior wall thickness to 550 mm our energy consultant says we need to add 50 mm more insulation, so I went to "Type" to modify the structure of our Wall Type, but when I do so then I loose all the references to the walls (dimensions, notations and stuff) and the Windows get erased.

Any suggestion about how to deal with this? I have 249 windows, so I want to spare the Time doing every and each windows individually again

Re: Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

Erense — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 13:22:12 GMT

Your wall has a baseline.

Mostly it wil be on the inside of your 'outer layer'

Perhaps your windows/doors are linked to anything other then this baseline.

Re: Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

ToanDN — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 14:25:49 GMT

@aksel_alvarez

Edit the window family and change the host wall thickness see if it gives you any constraint error. Fix it to make sure the window works for various thicknesses.

Re: Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

Sahay_R — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 14:51:16 GMT

I'm with @ToanDN - it has to start with the window family. Can you share it? Or rather, just a file with the window inserted in the same type of wall?

Re: Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

aksel_alvarez — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 15:11:46 GMT

Unfortunately I can't share the File (politics of the Company) until now it seems to be the problem you are pointing out. For some reason I can't set a value for "Inset" greater than 299 mm when changing the wall thickness from 550 to 600 mm, since the windows were set to "Inset = 300 mm" they disappear with the new wall thickness.

The good thing is that with the new wall thickness I need to have a smaller "Inset", so it works around. I'll try tomorrow to fix the "Inset" in the Family, so we can learn if the problem was that.

Thanks for the answers!

Re: Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

Sahay_R — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 15:15:20 GMT

Can you just set the windows to be in the middle of the wall?

Re: Keep Windows and other elements while changing thickness of the wall type

aksel_alvarez — Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:22:33 GMT

So, I couldn't go completely through the work to correct this (matter of time, we will do it later) but the problem seems to be the window family, as you pointed by @Erense and @ToanDN the problem lies in the baseline of the wall related to the one used in the windows family, the default value limit the value that we wanted to set in the project. The windows were erased because they didn't comply with the conditions to set them into the wall after modifying the wall thickness