topic Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans? in Revit Architecture Forum

Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Marcus.Isacsson — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:56:29 GMT

Hi!

I wonder if it's somehow possible to use depth cueing for plans?
In this case I want the roof (blue in attached picture) to pop compared to the other objects placed below it.
would be neat if the objects further down could be a greyish color, showing that they're there but not really a part of the roof plan.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Sahay_R — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 17:06:01 GMT

You can use the Linework tool to grey out the lines that are not a part of the roof plan.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

ToanDN — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:25:00 GMT

Create a semi-transparent mass and place it at an elevation so that it obscures the lower part of your model. Or simply a masking region set to some level of transparency. It's better than Depth Cue since it still allows you to use Vector printing.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

sgoodmansen — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:03:04 GMT

Another option if its on a workset of its own, just set the workset to halftone in the view.

You could also do it with 2 views stacked on each other. In the primary view set the depth just for the floor you are on, then in the 2nd view set the depth to unlimited and sset everything within to halftone. Then stack the views on top of each other. It can be a little frustrating to get the right view when editing though.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Alfredo_Medina — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:21:49 GMT

What if you fix the view region? It seems to me that this "roof plan" is showing information that is not needed for the roof plan, information that should be already shown in other floor plans.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Marcus.Isacsson — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:21:03 GMT

@sgoodmansen wrote:
Another option if its on a workset of its own, just set the workset to halftone in the view.

You could also do it with 2 views stacked on each other. In the primary view set the depth just for the floor you are on, then in the 2nd view set the depth to unlimited and sset everything within to halftone. Then stack the views on top of each other. It can be a little frustrating to get the right view when editing though.

I've used this "cheat" a couple of times before but it's not possible in this case since the roof is sloping one way pretty much which makes it hard to set the depth correctly (you will see more than just a flat roof in the view supposed to only show the roof)

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Marcus.Isacsson — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:24:42 GMT

@Alfredo_Medina wrote:
What if you fix the view region? It seems to me that this "roof plan" is showing information that is not needed for the roof plan, information that should be already shown in other floor plans.

Yes, how would you do it in a good way?
Hide in place seems wrong, changing view depth in this case also gets weird with a one way sloping roof.
Hiding categories from a view template also feels wrong (will for example want to show a bunch of roof safety products later on).

Here's a picture showing the project for better understanding.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

ToanDN — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:09:38 GMT

Looking at your building I think using workset approach as proposed by @sgoodmansen maybe the easiest. Put the penthouse's elements in a Penthouse workset and create a View Filter using workset does not equal Penthouse criteria and set the Filter to Halftone.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Marcus.Isacsson — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:12:55 GMT

@rsahayUZMK9 wrote:
You can use the Linework tool to grey out the lines that are not a part of the roof plan.

That would be alot of manual work, later on more objects will be visible as well.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

jair_gh — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:39:15 GMT

Have you tried using the View Range? You can set your View depth to the level below or unlimited. You would also have to modify the line styles changing Beyond to your preferred color. That way, anything below the bottom range of your View Range will have the color of the Beyond line.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

chrisplyler — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:41:44 GMT

Another possibility:

Assuming your roof is built on a higher level, your roof plan view range could be limited to just slightly below the bottom most bit of the roof. Then everything below could be shown by overlaying a lower level plan. Bingo, the lower stuff is shown with the overlay settings (default halftoned).

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

manhuynh83 — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:26:51 GMT

Thanks Jair.

I bet your solution is the best.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Feb 2019 00:04:57 GMT

My boss uses the ground information to "ground the plan". Basically, when you go from sheet to sheet you can quickly, visually acclimate your self to the plan because of the constant information below you. Just that's an application for having the ground information.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Nov 2020 05:02:00 GMT

Mate absolute legend! My first job must have had this set up in there template. since then I could not for the life of my find out how to re set this up in my template...... i really should have googled this earlier. thank you.....

ps all the above suggestions makes you wonder how much time people spend on there projects!

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

gottfried.schmidtke — Thu, 24 Mar 2022 17:13:33 GMT

You could use a the front or side in 3D view, select everything what should be halftone , go back to plan view with everything still selected ( you can also save the selection) and override "by element". Its pretty simple and works for me.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

zahidAJNDZ — Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:23:57 GMT

Dear As per my experience i am using The beyond layer thiner and reuslt is good but it will make all same thin whats ever level is below.

Re: Possible to use depth cueing for plans?

YorickSOHO — Tue, 29 Apr 2025 07:25:37 GMT

Well you could alos create a section view parallel to your level (by rotating a section created in a *real* section) and use depth cuing ...
It won't be a FloorPlan per say but you could use a specific SectionView type to sort it in your browser and hide for scale under ... so the section line doesn't show on every section view