topic Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically in Revit Architecture Forum

Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:56:57 GMT

Hello everyone,

I am facing a graphical issue. I created a new material with red cross hatches to learn an exercise. I created the schedule of paint material area for the elements.

Issue is: once the material is applied and then removed, the paint is removed in schedules. Also the "remove paint" tool seems ineffective on that corresponding surface with earlier paint removed. So technically the paint is removed. But graphically, it still shows, which creates a problem in graphically identifying elements with the paint.

The original file was created in Revit 2017. I upgraded it to 2018, and the surface showed up as I wanted, i.e. unpainted. This led me to think something was wrong with my 2017 installation. But then I again tried "Painting" and "Remove Paint"ing, and it behaved the same as in 2017 file. Is it something wrong with installation, or my Graphic card or am I doing something incorrect? I also tried deleting the %temp% files, restarting Revit, restarting Windows, but nothing worked.

My machine config is:

Intel Xeon E3-1245 v5 @ 3.50GHz, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro, Nvidia Quadro K1200 4GB.

I am attaching the Revit 2017 file. Please help.

File_v2017.rvt

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Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:06:12 GMT

Here's the file.

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:23:42 GMT

I updated my Graphic Drivers to the latest. The problem still exists.

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Ilic.Andrej — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:37:53 GMT

I opened your file and saw the problem.

Its not about your graphics card, installation, computer or whatever.... These are just usual Revit bugs. Whenever you encounter bugs, do this:

Select the bugged geometry, go to "modify" tab and click "Cut to Clipboard"; Click "Paste" and "Aligned to Same Place". This will fix the graph display. I tried this on your example and it worked.

For real, this is just a bug. There is no other explanation. Whenever you see bugs, this technique may help.

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Ilic.Andrej — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:32:22 GMT

I discovered this technique I showed you while working on groups. Revit groups can really give you a headache. So, I was designing a Townhouse which was a Revit group with 8 instances (8 houses). Ofcourse, I often updated the group ("Edit group", did some tweaks and "Finish Group"). Occasionally, Revit used to say that it cannot finish group editing, it can just "Fix Groups" or "Ungroup". Then I said "Ok, Revit, this is how we gonna play. I'm gonna select all new geometry I created and I'm gonna cut it to clipboard. After closing and reopening the group, I'm gonna paste aligned to same place". Ough yeah, it works like a charm. No warnings caused by mystic and unexplained "human errors". This is war. Its just you and Revit. No mercy! 🙂

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

planner_matlabi — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 17:46:02 GMT

hi

I do not know what the problem is BUT You can do this

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Ilic.Andrej — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 18:14:32 GMT

There is no need to remove surface patterns in visibility settings. This is just a bug.

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Nov 2017 04:47:56 GMT

Rightly pointed out. It's a bug. @Viveka_CD Is there a way to bring this to Autodesk's attention?

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:21:28 GMT

I found another method as well. Paint with any other material, if the component has been assigned a material prefer that, and remove the paint again. The previously applied paint vanishes, solving the problem.

This may be useful when there are dimensions referenced from that component in consideration whose paint is to be removed. These dimensions will also vanish along with the component if the component is "cut" to paste in same-place again. Just another method.

Re: Unable to remove "Paint" graphically

Viveka_CD — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 17:14:42 GMT

Thanks for alerting me to this thread @Anonymous. I will log this with development.

Feel free to check back later for an update.