topic Handrail Support Visibility in Revit Architecture Forum

Handrail Support Visibility

brandon — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:24:47 GMT

In one of my plan views, a handrail with wall-mtd. supports displays correctly except for the supports themselves, which are largely hidden from view. I can't find anything in the type properties of visibility graphics settings that could be affecting this. It appears as though they are hidden by the stair itself, but section and 3D views confirm that the rail is properly placed. When the railing is selected, the supports can be seen.

I've looked through several posts on the forum dating back to 2012 and haven't seen any solutions to this problem. The most relevant seems to have ended unsolved.

Any ideas?

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

Sahay_R — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:33:49 GMT

In your Project Browser - under Families. Look for the Baluster family being used. Right click on it and Edit. Make sure that the geometry has been set to be visible. Reload the family into the project.

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

brandon — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:16:15 GMT

Thanks, rsahayUZMK9. I ensured that each sweep object in the Family's construction was enabled for Plan/RCP (it was indeed unchecked initially, so that tip will be very helpful in the future!), but when reloaded into the project the same error continues. Any other ideas?

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

Sahay_R — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:30:56 GMT

In your project VG / View Template - are all the Railing boxes checked?

All else failing - can you share a file that shows the behavior?

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

barthbradley — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:27:35 GMT

...is it perhaps Detail Level related? In other words, is the family set to show at your View's Detail Level (e.g. Course, Medium, Fine)?

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

ToanDN — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:53:25 GMT

Add an invisible model line vertically below the support in the support family.

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

barthbradley — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:02:11 GMT

AHHH! The old model line trick! I'd be curious to know if this resolves the issue though. I never would have considered it for this. Let us know, @brandon.

P.S. If he goes this route, I guarantee that his nest post will be "I've got handrail brackets showing all over the place! what do I do?!"

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

brandon — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:39:59 GMT

Brilliant - that did it! @barthbradley as of now the supports have not shown up anywhere unintended, but I'll keep an eye out. Thanks @ToanDN, but any idea why this is necessary? Will I universally need to add this line to other Families in the future to avoid a bug or is this a "feature" of Family construction for supports?

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

barthbradley — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:46:34 GMT

My advice: Do it on an as-need basis. I was half serious when I predicted what your next post would be about; that stuff would be showing above the View Cut Plane that shouldn't be.

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

ToanDN — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 02:09:41 GMT

@barthbradley You can make it show or not show however you want by how you draw the model line in the family. It is a simple geometry control.

@brandon A lot of things in Revit are weird and for this one they might have thought that showing the handrail support wouldn't be necessary. To be fair I have never shown them on my drawings so the OOTB setting is sort of working in my favor.

The model line trick is widely used for present elements above cut plane on plan views, just so you know.

Re: Handrail Support Visibility

barthbradley — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 02:16:02 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:

@barthbradley You can make it show or not show however you want by how you draw the model line in the family. It is a simple geometry control.

What do you mean, Toan?